In reply to Post #136
Thanks for the reply mate, swapped over to the fox ones with a peg in, and invested in a packet of large bore running rig c clips.
I've just put my rods out, so be interesting to see how the running rig performs over the next 48.
Thanks for the reply mate, swapped over to the fox ones with a peg in, and invested in a packet of large bore running rig c clips.
I've just put my rods out, so be interesting to see how the running rig performs over the next 48.
So.......without totally changing the subject, reading this has made me think about the difference between a running/non-pegged lead clip and and inline set-up.
With an inline the swivel 'clips' in like a non-pegged Korda lead clip or plugs in if there is a rubber insert and if the line snaps the lead, lead insert, tail rubber and tubing (if used) have to slide off the line as invariably the first thing that happens if it hits trouble is the swivel will pop out of the lead, same as what folks are saying about a running lead clip. This is usually considered a safe set up but is it? Adding to that I know some people use this set up with a slightly crushed swivel eye to effectively make it running
Discuss
With an inline the swivel 'clips' in like a non-pegged Korda lead clip or plugs in if there is a rubber insert and if the line snaps the lead, lead insert, tail rubber and tubing (if used) have to slide off the line as invariably the first thing that happens if it hits trouble is the swivel will pop out of the lead, same as what folks are saying about a running lead clip. This is usually considered a safe set up but is it? Adding to that I know some people use this set up with a slightly crushed swivel eye to effectively make it running
Discuss
In reply to Post #139
Well according to some , inlines are safe especially in weed ! I'm not commenting any more though as I might upset someone
You'll probably get an answer along these lines....'yeah but a hole in a lead is much bigger than a lead clip ‘
Well according to some , inlines are safe especially in weed ! I'm not commenting any more though as I might upset someone
You'll probably get an answer along these lines....'yeah but a hole in a lead is much bigger than a lead clip ‘
In reply to Post #140
.'yeah but a hole in a lead is much bigger than a lead clip ‘
I was thinking that as I was writing
but, the bore of any tubing used behind it is definitely much smaller than the bore of any lead clip etc
.'yeah but a hole in a lead is much bigger than a lead clip ‘
I was thinking that as I was writing
but, the bore of any tubing used behind it is definitely much smaller than the bore of any lead clip etc
In reply to Post #140
I dont use running leads and they are something i haven't used as they wouldn't have suited the silty venues i usually fish however:
I was fishing a weedy venue a good few years ago now and got chatting to an old boy who was doing very well on the water. He said all he used was small inlines and didn't have a problem in the weed as they dont "snag up" and get caught like pendant leads.
I dont use running leads and they are something i haven't used as they wouldn't have suited the silty venues i usually fish however:
I was fishing a weedy venue a good few years ago now and got chatting to an old boy who was doing very well on the water. He said all he used was small inlines and didn't have a problem in the weed as they dont "snag up" and get caught like pendant leads.
In reply to Post #139
You can't compare an inline with a pendant lead setup, totally different beasts.
You can't compare an inline with a pendant lead setup, totally different beasts.
In reply to Post #140
Don't worry, I'm sensible enough not to respond to your baiting and ignorance, because quite simply you are not worth replying to😉
Don't worry, I'm sensible enough not to respond to your baiting and ignorance, because quite simply you are not worth replying to😉
As mozibay has said, the pb products hit and run system seems pretty safe to me if you do want a fixed then running setup - as soon as the swivel is pulled out you are on to the pulley system. There is a hole in the hit and run lead clip to insert a pin and hold the swivel in place - but that defeats the point of the system in my opinion.
I just tried a crude test with their hit and run lead clips using their silk ray leader. The idea behind the test was to assume a crack off/cut off. For what it's worth the rig was a silicone boom rig with chod attached (closest rig to hand at the time) The quick change swivel (boy are these tough - had to use pliers to open it enough to clip the ring swivel in!) was wetted and inserted in the lead clip, and the lead lifted off the carpet and given one good shake to simulate a carp (crude I know). The leads do not have pin to hold them in. The lightest lead I could get the quick change swivel to pop out straight away was 12gr/.42oz. With an 8gr/.28oz (the lightest weight I could find in my coarse tackle box) it won't pop out - but I'm pretty sure that carp anglers don't use leads this light! A 1oz pops it out and almost all of the leader (which is about 3ft long). I didn't bother to try anything heavier as the heavier the lead the easier will be for the system to work.
I like the fact that if you do crack off/cut off the only thing left in the carp is your rig (once the line and leader are pulled through the swivel eye)
I just tried a crude test with their hit and run lead clips using their silk ray leader. The idea behind the test was to assume a crack off/cut off. For what it's worth the rig was a silicone boom rig with chod attached (closest rig to hand at the time) The quick change swivel (boy are these tough - had to use pliers to open it enough to clip the ring swivel in!) was wetted and inserted in the lead clip, and the lead lifted off the carpet and given one good shake to simulate a carp (crude I know). The leads do not have pin to hold them in. The lightest lead I could get the quick change swivel to pop out straight away was 12gr/.42oz. With an 8gr/.28oz (the lightest weight I could find in my coarse tackle box) it won't pop out - but I'm pretty sure that carp anglers don't use leads this light! A 1oz pops it out and almost all of the leader (which is about 3ft long). I didn't bother to try anything heavier as the heavier the lead the easier will be for the system to work.
I like the fact that if you do crack off/cut off the only thing left in the carp is your rig (once the line and leader are pulled through the swivel eye)
In reply to Post #146
so is there a danger proof running rig out there
im not sure now
i can see the faults with disposing the lead if it gets caught up
i suppose thats the same problem with any running lead rig
so is there a danger proof running rig out there
im not sure now
i can see the faults with disposing the lead if it gets caught up
i suppose thats the same problem with any running lead rig
In reply to Post #146
In reply to Post #146
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In reply to Post #147
so is there a danger proof running rig out there
The lead is attached with a C-clip. Should it become snagged the clip will allow the lead to discharge...
The hole in the small end of most tail rubbers is too small to pass over any knot and in many cases so is the one in the clip itself
This is the safest way to use a lead clip IMO. (Note: The clip is pinned to the swivel.)
so is there a danger proof running rig out there
The lead is attached with a C-clip. Should it become snagged the clip will allow the lead to discharge...
The hole in the small end of most tail rubbers is too small to pass over any knot and in many cases so is the one in the clip itself
This is the safest way to use a lead clip IMO. (Note: The clip is pinned to the swivel.)
In reply to Post #149
Looks good that set up how do you get on with it tangling
Looks good that set up how do you get on with it tangling