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Fox Frontier - new bivvy (630 posts / 70,815 views)
sundance sundance
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Post #91 15 Sep 2020 22:07
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Lovely
In the loft i have an old nash 50 inch Brolly throw. But its from when the brollys began being angled
With storm poles. I,last used it at Darenth in 2006 I think. Still worked fine.
sundance sundance
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Post #92 15 Sep 2020 22:09
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Excellent.
So nash invented the outer rib central block
And fox invented the skull cap.
g4fne g4fne
Posts: 15,110
Post #93 15 Sep 2020 22:37
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In the loft i have an old nash 50 inch Brolly throw. But its from when the brollys began being angled
With storm poles.


That was my second shelter after the brolly camp



sundance sundance
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Post #94 15 Sep 2020 22:40
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Brilliant
That's the one
scozza
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Post #95 16 Sep 2020 06:31
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I don't think the pioneers are that old are they, I would say around 15 years, could be wrong?
Wayne Wayne
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Post #96 16 Sep 2020 07:30
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Pioneers were available early 2004.......
Boo Boo
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Post #97 16 Sep 2020 08:12
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I had the original pram hood style Fox Frontier and have regretted selling it ever since I did 😢. Do like the look of this new Frontier though
scozza
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Post #98 16 Sep 2020 08:47
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ramsey ramsey
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Post #99 23 Sep 2020 23:20
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Yeh your right remember buying one still think to this day wish I didn't sell it lol
carpy0600 carpy0600
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Post #100 24 Sep 2020 11:13
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I am not sure what the frontier is like but I have repaired about 10 fox bivvies in the last couple of weeks the xl retreat with ripped pegging points.

there is a design fault with the way they have done the pegging points and they need to be reinforced

I have emailed fox but got no response
scozza
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Post #101 24 Sep 2020 11:59
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Not sure what the new stuff is like. The explorer that i had was a very thick heavy nylon type. top material
CarpingBucks
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Post #102 2 Oct 2020 14:47
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CarpingBucks
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Post #103 2 Oct 2020 14:47
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My one man xl ripped at one of the pegging points its second trip out. I drafted in my mother in law to repair it and reinforce all the pegging points. Its a real shame, as besides that it is a top bivvy.

I am tempted by the Frontier XD, but I worry about the quality. I also worry it is supplied with guy ropes for 'extreme weather', that suggests to me there is a problem with the aerodynamics.

I trust Trakker on quality more than any other company, however they don't make a one man bivvy with the same headroom as Fox or Nash.
Euroboybobbin Euroboybobbin
Posts: 4,644
Post #104 2 Oct 2020 19:26
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This new Fox will be a slight less impressive version of the Nash Titan t1/2 which are rock solid and well made.

The only improvements I could make to the T1/2 is poles to have plastic moulded ends to stop the inner cord rubbing eventually. The other is clear side windows to compliment the camo front side ones (had mine done by army Andy)

Perhaps a very small improvement might be an air gap for the rear mozzi vents and internally zips too.

Seeking perfection is hard eh 🤣🤣
Nelbow Nelbow
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Post #105 6 Oct 2020 20:42
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Has anyone opted to go for one of these? Having read all comments it would there will never be a perfect brolly bivvy system as there will always be something overlooked. Based on that I'm poised at pulling the trigger on the XD and placing a pre-order.

I have been hugely let down by Cyprinus. Bought their top end product, Typhoon DPM MH Ripstop. First one had three holes in it. Sent me a replacement and found a hole in it. I couldn't be arsed inspecting any further as I lost all confidence in it. Not to mention the “heavy duty” groundsheet. It's unacceptable to call it heavy duty. It's as thin as the bivvy layer itself. In fact, the one and only time I went out in the first bivvy with 3 holes, the groundsheet was showing signs of penetration through it in two different areas. Basically, in a bit shell, it's very poor quality which is why I'm looking at the XD version. I want height and at 165cm ticks a box most others don't. And with some pretty cool features I'm very tempted.
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