In reply to Post #70
Why don't you just admit you think you need to have the last word?
You have ignored logic, common sense and fish safety when going on about lead clips in weed, and 'created' an experiment on dry land that does not react as it would in water. You have hands, a fish have none. You got the result you set up the test for rather than coming in with a clear mind.
However you try to dress it up, I will fish a running lead on harder weed free areas in gravel, sand or clay pits, although the lake does contain weed. It does not mean that the lead set-up is wrong for that lake, it is the correct choice for me on the spot I am fishing. In fact hooked fish can go into weed, no matter what lead set-up you use.
If I were fishing heavy weedy areas, I will actually avoid lead clips and go to zipp shaped inline leads, which catches less weed than a lead clip or running lead, or use a weak or weakened lead link attached to the run ring, which if it snagged it could break free from. Then I am fishing straight to the hooklink with no added junk.
Why don't you just admit you think you need to have the last word?
You have ignored logic, common sense and fish safety when going on about lead clips in weed, and 'created' an experiment on dry land that does not react as it would in water. You have hands, a fish have none. You got the result you set up the test for rather than coming in with a clear mind.
However you try to dress it up, I will fish a running lead on harder weed free areas in gravel, sand or clay pits, although the lake does contain weed. It does not mean that the lead set-up is wrong for that lake, it is the correct choice for me on the spot I am fishing. In fact hooked fish can go into weed, no matter what lead set-up you use.
If I were fishing heavy weedy areas, I will actually avoid lead clips and go to zipp shaped inline leads, which catches less weed than a lead clip or running lead, or use a weak or weakened lead link attached to the run ring, which if it snagged it could break free from. Then I am fishing straight to the hooklink with no added junk.
In reply to Post #70
I've pasted exactly what you typed out
you're more than happy to use what I said in the other thread so what's good for the goose...
How did you get on today? Hope you had a good session.
I've pasted exactly what you typed out
you're more than happy to use what I said in the other thread so what's good for the goose...How did you get on today? Hope you had a good session.
In reply to Post #73
Correct and as I explained if you go way back I actually said don't use this rig in weedy / snaggy swims ! It's a semi fixed lead which has its place but not in snaggy weedy waters
Correct and as I explained if you go way back I actually said don't use this rig in weedy / snaggy swims ! It's a semi fixed lead which has its place but not in snaggy weedy waters
In reply to Post #72
You can talk ! Im more than capable of selecting any rig I prefer for a given sitauation on any type of water or situation , I don't need a jumped up keyboard warrior trying to tell me its wrong when it isn't . Don't assume just because you think you're right that I am wrong , after all in the words of the mighty Boysie assumption should be avoided , at least he got that right
You can talk ! Im more than capable of selecting any rig I prefer for a given sitauation on any type of water or situation , I don't need a jumped up keyboard warrior trying to tell me its wrong when it isn't . Don't assume just because you think you're right that I am wrong , after all in the words of the mighty Boysie assumption should be avoided , at least he got that right
In reply to Post #74
Exactly 'correct' you need to have the last word. Only problem is you have not listened to reason, changed what you have said all the way through, and have no valid answer or opinion.
A lead clip fished running, is not a semi fixed lead, unless the line is tight, nor is a run ring. If a run ring or lead is used, and the line is tight, then it has become a bolt rig as per Kevin Maddocks original drawings in Carp Fever.
Even then a bolt rig has become any semi-fixed lead set-up where the fish is being panicked into 'bolting'.
I return your and raise you 😲
Exactly 'correct' you need to have the last word. Only problem is you have not listened to reason, changed what you have said all the way through, and have no valid answer or opinion.
A lead clip fished running, is not a semi fixed lead, unless the line is tight, nor is a run ring. If a run ring or lead is used, and the line is tight, then it has become a bolt rig as per Kevin Maddocks original drawings in Carp Fever.
Even then a bolt rig has become any semi-fixed lead set-up where the fish is being panicked into 'bolting'.
I return your
and raise you 😲
In reply to Post #76
Changed what I've said ? Where have I changed anything ??? I said at the start and all the way through that the running clip is for weed and snag free waters , how come you have to resort to lies ?
A semi fixed lead is semi fixed lead regardless of how tight you fish your mainline , I think you may be getting confused with it all to be honest , I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that bolt rigs have to have a tight line !
We are talking about running semi fixed lead clips , not running lead clips , I think you seriously should wind your neck in at this point and give up as you're making yourself look stupid as maybe you've been posting without actually knowing what we are talking about !!!
So you admit to using fixed leads with your inline set up ? A fixed lead is much more dangerous in my eyes than a rig that can dump the lead against no chance of dumping the lead as with an inline , but I'm sure you'll disagree and say the hole in the lead is ample size for the line to pass through
I think maybe you need a lesson in how rigs work and when and how to use them correctly
Changed what I've said ? Where have I changed anything ??? I said at the start and all the way through that the running clip is for weed and snag free waters , how come you have to resort to lies ?
A semi fixed lead is semi fixed lead regardless of how tight you fish your mainline , I think you may be getting confused with it all to be honest , I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that bolt rigs have to have a tight line !
We are talking about running semi fixed lead clips , not running lead clips , I think you seriously should wind your neck in at this point and give up as you're making yourself look stupid as maybe you've been posting without actually knowing what we are talking about !!!
So you admit to using fixed leads with your inline set up ? A fixed lead is much more dangerous in my eyes than a rig that can dump the lead against no chance of dumping the lead as with an inline , but I'm sure you'll disagree and say the hole in the lead is ample size for the line to pass through
I think maybe you need a lesson in how rigs work and when and how to use them correctly
Is anybody else reading this load of ******** and have any input ?
In reply to Post #78
Using a none pinned lead clip is ****ing mental.
Using a none pinned lead clip is ****ing mental.
In reply to Post #79
A none pinned?
A none pinned?
In reply to Post #77
You're making yourself look like a clown
You're making yourself look like a clown
In reply to Post #81
Yeah, I though it meant that.
; totally fixed.
Not good.
Yeah, I though it meant that.
; totally fixed. Not good.
In reply to Post #84
Correct , you are laughable , it's a shame as it once was a great forum
Correct , you are laughable , it's a shame as it once was a great forum
In reply to Post #78
The one talking the ****** is you😉
I used the asterisks, as that is what you posted
You backtrack, prevaricate, try to change the subject, and have no idea of how to reduce risks.
Let me point this out to you, just once an inline lead slides through weed better than a lead on a lead clip, i.e. it does not catch up. Held onto the hooklink swivel by a neoprene sleeve, as advocated by Jim Gibbinson, in the event of a break the hooklink knot is normally the place the line breaks. The lead is then able to be ejected, actually quite easily as the neoprene will slip off, also the bore of the inline lead is larger than that of a lead clip😉
Semi-fixed, held in place, as I pointed out is a lead clip held in place by the pin holding it to the swivel, or supposedly a lead clip thatpushes and clicks onto the hooklink swivel.
I said a run ring or lead clip able to run up or down the line is not semi-fixed. I then pointed out that any semi-fixed lead has become a bolt rig, because the fish is supposed to bolt or run.
I don't think you have read the title of this thread, it is called 'Leadclips fixed / running, discuss nicely', as such talking about a lead clip being used for running set-ups and how dangerous it is.
In order to deflect from your talking twaddle you start to make comments about other anglers.
You should be the person to wind your neck in, you are actually quite rude, insulting and ignorant. I think most people have just read your laughable rubbish and our counter arguments and given up, although some have pointed out you have made yourself look like a clown.
To be honest, you are not really worth replying to, and as I am sure you will want the last word I'll let you have it in your ignorance.
The one talking the ****** is you😉
I used the asterisks, as that is what you posted
You backtrack, prevaricate, try to change the subject, and have no idea of how to reduce risks.
Let me point this out to you, just once an inline lead slides through weed better than a lead on a lead clip, i.e. it does not catch up. Held onto the hooklink swivel by a neoprene sleeve, as advocated by Jim Gibbinson, in the event of a break the hooklink knot is normally the place the line breaks. The lead is then able to be ejected, actually quite easily as the neoprene will slip off, also the bore of the inline lead is larger than that of a lead clip😉
Semi-fixed, held in place, as I pointed out is a lead clip held in place by the pin holding it to the swivel, or supposedly a lead clip thatpushes and clicks onto the hooklink swivel.
I said a run ring or lead clip able to run up or down the line is not semi-fixed. I then pointed out that any semi-fixed lead has become a bolt rig, because the fish is supposed to bolt or run.
I don't think you have read the title of this thread, it is called 'Leadclips fixed / running, discuss nicely', as such talking about a lead clip being used for running set-ups and how dangerous it is.
In order to deflect from your talking twaddle you start to make comments about other anglers.
You should be the person to wind your neck in, you are actually quite rude, insulting and ignorant. I think most people have just read your laughable rubbish and our counter arguments and given up, although some have pointed out you have made yourself look like a clown.
To be honest, you are not really worth replying to, and as I am sure you will want the last word I'll let you have it in your ignorance.
In reply to Post #78
I too am intrigued as to others opinions... If someone new could step in to stop things getting personal and the thread getting locked up again that'd be great.
As you know from the last thread, I'm entirely in agreement with Boycie/Scott/Josh.
I too am intrigued as to others opinions... If someone new could step in to stop things getting personal and the thread getting locked up again that'd be great.
As you know from the last thread, I'm entirely in agreement with Boycie/Scott/Josh.
In reply to Post #88
I agree.
What could have been constructive and interesting debate, turned into a 1v1 'mine is bigger than yours' thread.
I'm in the lead clip running camp, but I only got one reply to my post.
I agree.
What could have been constructive and interesting debate, turned into a 1v1 'mine is bigger than yours' thread.
I'm in the lead clip running camp, but I only got one reply to my post.