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Dropping the lead (63 posts / 6,532 views)
ip100 ip100
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Post #46 27 Aug 2020 17:37
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Not used the c clip things so can't comment on them, but yeah I guess on a weak link it would be ok, if not a bit of a faff.
I just don't get the need for people to drop leads, it really isn't needed. And if people really want to then they should be using stones tied on rather than leads. I dread to think of the amount of lead sitting on the bottom of some of the busier places these days
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #47 27 Aug 2020 18:11
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In theory the pb products hit n run lead clip setup is probably the safest out there but doubt anyone bothers to use that instead of a standard lead clip . I use these in the rare occasion I dont use a heli setup
You are left with just the hook link in the carps mouth
See below
link
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #48 27 Aug 2020 21:09
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No problems Mate, I know what you are saying about inlines, and whether they can release.
Me personally I played with various systems or items so that the lead could come off if I got snapped off.
The things I found were that neoprene sleeves on the base of the tubing through the lead and rubber tulip beads allowed the lead to come off the swivel if you got snapped off.

Mickey6618
Posts: 8
Post #49 28 Aug 2020 12:10
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Jon,

Thanks for putting up this link - great in principle. Love what they are doing technically. Not sure i'd want an alien head as a weight - But I'm going to look into this option more.

Thanks
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #50 29 Aug 2020 10:45
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I'm also a lake owner and last year put a rule in banning the dropping of leads. Not one member complained, which did surprise me.
This year I streamlined the rules, including the one about the dropping of leads and yet most of the members from last season have carried on fishing the same as last year.
Personally I haven't dropped a lead, or used a lead clip in about six years.
baldyman baldyman
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Post #51 29 Aug 2020 21:15
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A friend of mine goes to a certain lake in france every year , when he gets there he buys leads from the owner at a nominal price and only those leads can be used at the lake . All of those leads have a ball bearing inside which the owner uses to collect the dropped leads every winter by magnet fishing as most anglers are fishing regular spots when they go . great idea and wouldn't work on every lake but food for thought for any responsible fishing owners
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #52 29 Aug 2020 23:56
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It must be a very special magnet to latch on to a relatively small ball bearing encapsulated in lead.
mark1009
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Post #53 30 Aug 2020 00:55
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Must be a very big ball bearing and an electro magnet so powerful that you could not operate it if you have a pacemaker fitted.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #54 30 Aug 2020 11:13
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That isn't real surely? just sounds to me like the lake owner has found a way to make a few extra quid by making people buy his leads
Mickey6618
Posts: 8
Post #55 2 Sep 2020 15:36
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In reply to Post #27
Really good post thanks - thanks for taking the time to add it.

I think its fair to say that everyone is in agreement that dropping the lead isn't a good thing.

I did catch a fish earlier this year, still trailing a small lead - and it made a mess - so there are a few things to consider.

Inline leads i don't have an issue with. They aren't getting dropped.

If people are using a lead clip - then I need to find/create and enforce an alternative.

There has to be big mindset change in the carp Angling world - Somebody put it well in a previous reply - If i saw somebody stood on the bank throwing bits of lead into my lake - I'd probably slap them... yet I allow it everyday.

Thanks so much for all the comments. It's confirmed it is an issue that needs to be tackled sooner rather than later.

Cheers
woody71
Posts: 3,098
Post #56 2 Sep 2020 15:45
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you may be surprised at the number of people that fish inlines as drop off style the lead has the rig swivel plugged into the bottom but instead of a leader going through the inline it goes outside then through the top rubber which is pushed onto the lead. on a take the lead pulls free

Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,096
Post #57 2 Sep 2020 15:56
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I don't agree with lead dropping but I tried drop off inlines on a French lake where normal inline lead were not allowed but found the lead dropped off far too easily for my liking, so I took them off and went over to normal lead clips to get more control on how much pressure is needed to release the lead.

woody71
Posts: 3,098
Post #58 2 Sep 2020 16:06
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I will just add its not something i have ever done was just pointing out to mike that it can and does get done
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #59 2 Sep 2020 16:46
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Mickey6618
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Post #60 2 Sep 2020 21:31
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It get's done way too often.....

Just no need......

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