In reply to Post #29
It's clear what you are saying, but in my experience things aren't as clear cut as you make out.
And I use the multi because I find it gives better hookholds and seems to get me more bites
It's clear what you are saying, but in my experience things aren't as clear cut as you make out.
And I use the multi because I find it gives better hookholds and seems to get me more bites
In reply to Post #1
. . .I always thought the 'slip' in the slip D was the key . . .ie. it slips / pulls taught to the eye of the hook when you get a take / have been done. IMO this is also called the Ultimate Rig (Mark Bryant) which is in effect, a combi rig with the braided section set up as a multi rig . . .
Confused . . . you should be! (or either that I am . . .
)
. . .I always thought the 'slip' in the slip D was the key . . .ie. it slips / pulls taught to the eye of the hook when you get a take / have been done. IMO this is also called the Ultimate Rig (Mark Bryant) which is in effect, a combi rig with the braided section set up as a multi rig . . .
Confused . . . you should be! (or either that I am . . .
)
In reply to Post #32
Thats what i thought. They were the exact same thing. Made sense they called it a slip D for that reason, because it slips. So why is it called a slip D?
Thats what i thought. They were the exact same thing. Made sense they called it a slip D for that reason, because it slips. So why is it called a slip D?
Load of ballcocks invented for the YouTube generation.
Don't let them **** with your head, guys!
Don't let them **** with your head, guys!
In reply to Post #32
If you watch martin clarkes gardner video of the slip d it isn't a multi rig and the d doesn't slip down to the eye when a fish pulls the hooklink tight, his version is just like a stiff d rig knotless knotted but with braid and if he uses a big ring the bait and ring can pass back over the eye of the hook on ejection.
Both versions can be set up with similar properties although the true multi version offers easy change of the hook
If you watch martin clarkes gardner video of the slip d it isn't a multi rig and the d doesn't slip down to the eye when a fish pulls the hooklink tight, his version is just like a stiff d rig knotless knotted but with braid and if he uses a big ring the bait and ring can pass back over the eye of the hook on ejection.
Both versions can be set up with similar properties although the true multi version offers easy change of the hook
In reply to Post #35
Why is it called a Slip D rig then, surely thats just a D rig?
Why is it called a Slip D rig then, surely thats just a D rig?
In reply to Post #32
I seem to remember a rig use by lockey which was the same many years ago. Someone is always re-inventing the wheel. A lot of rigs do the same job. You only really need 2 or 3 rigs to cover most situations.
Chilly would say you only need one.
I seem to remember a rig use by lockey which was the same many years ago. Someone is always re-inventing the wheel. A lot of rigs do the same job. You only really need 2 or 3 rigs to cover most situations.
Chilly would say you only need one.
In reply to Post #27
You could tell that to the perfectly hooked ducks that have dived on the bait in the past few weeks.
You have many as I think it was Ken put it, Youtube rigs.
Snake rig, Scorpion rig, Slip D.
Now I don't faff around with rigs, I use what works for me, which is a standard D for pop-ups, occasionally a multi-rig.
The advantage of the multi rig is it can be very effective with bottom baits as well, and I seem to recall Martin Locke calls it his Kebab rig; 3 different baits on the hair (or spike).
This is actually either set to slip tight, or is tight in the first place.
Many rigs are reinventions, rehashed, and renamed, because the current generation of anglers want new fashion...😖😅😉
You could tell that to the perfectly hooked ducks that have dived on the bait in the past few weeks.
You have many as I think it was Ken put it, Youtube rigs.
Snake rig, Scorpion rig, Slip D.
Now I don't faff around with rigs, I use what works for me, which is a standard D for pop-ups, occasionally a multi-rig.
The advantage of the multi rig is it can be very effective with bottom baits as well, and I seem to recall Martin Locke calls it his Kebab rig; 3 different baits on the hair (or spike).
This is actually either set to slip tight, or is tight in the first place.
Many rigs are reinventions, rehashed, and renamed, because the current generation of anglers want new fashion...😖😅😉
In reply to Post #36
You would have to ask martin clarke why he called it the slip d but maybe because unlike a stiff material d rig which stays in place the soft d allows more movement for the baits on ejection by moving away from the hook and can even slip past the eye of the hook.
You have also got to bear in mind how many years ago he named this rig
You would have to ask martin clarke why he called it the slip d but maybe because unlike a stiff material d rig which stays in place the soft d allows more movement for the baits on ejection by moving away from the hook and can even slip past the eye of the hook.
You have also got to bear in mind how many years ago he named this rig
In reply to Post #39
Should have called it the "floppy D"
Should have called it the "floppy D"
In reply to Post #41
Yes i have used something similar to what you describe for a few years now and have similar views to you about birds not pulling the d section down certainly not on my rig anyway
Yes i have used something similar to what you describe for a few years now and have similar views to you about birds not pulling the d section down certainly not on my rig anyway
I think we have all been guilty at some point in getting caught up in the latest rig fad. ( Maybe not Ken ).. 
Tried the slip D rig for a bit as I was finding my usual hair type rig I was using I was getting the hair wrapping round the hook quite a lot.. ( yes before you say it in know about PVA Tape and starch nuggets ). I'm lazy..
Thought I'd give the slip D a go. But ended up with the same problems. Maybe it was happening on the retriever but it dont exactly instill you with confidence does it..
Ended up going over to the stiffer loop on the multi rig. Problem solved
But the more and more I look at the rig. ( yes I know its quick change ) for how close the loop is to the shank of the hook. You might aswell have the mini swivel O ring bait screw or what ever you use sliding up the hook shank..
Tried the slip D rig for a bit as I was finding my usual hair type rig I was using I was getting the hair wrapping round the hook quite a lot.. ( yes before you say it in know about PVA Tape and starch nuggets ). I'm lazy..
Thought I'd give the slip D a go. But ended up with the same problems. Maybe it was happening on the retriever but it dont exactly instill you with confidence does it..
Ended up going over to the stiffer loop on the multi rig. Problem solved
But the more and more I look at the rig. ( yes I know its quick change ) for how close the loop is to the shank of the hook. You might aswell have the mini swivel O ring bait screw or what ever you use sliding up the hook shank..
In reply to Post #43
I think you're right there many rigs that are just different ways of achieving the same effect. Some use more bits than others. Whether they are better is very subjective.
I think you're right there many rigs that are just different ways of achieving the same effect. Some use more bits than others. Whether they are better is very subjective.
Multi rig is a winner for me. Supple braid and a small kicker to lock the loop knot against the hook eye.
Here the boilie hangs a bit low as its a bottom bait.
I love the option to change a blunt hook, and not needing loads of spare rigs keeps my tackle box tidy.
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A 23lber, one of 6 fish, caught on a january evening session on the rig and bait shown above.
Here the boilie hangs a bit low as its a bottom bait.
I love the option to change a blunt hook, and not needing loads of spare rigs keeps my tackle box tidy.
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A 23lber, one of 6 fish, caught on a january evening session on the rig and bait shown above.
Don't like either, they don't work for me. Tried and binned 