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Loops and how to do them? (50 posts / 5,768 views)
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
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Post #31 7 Sep 2021 06:18
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Back on topic....
Just use Krimps.
It's the best way.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #32 7 Sep 2021 07:18
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The easiest line/knot test without bouncing the needle of the scales around is hanging a bucket on the line and adding water or weights until it snaps. Simple physics lol
Truth be told it doesn't matter, because only about 5% of carp rods will exert more than 8lb of pressure on the business end, I happily use 8-10lb mono hooklinks and they very very rarely go.
As citykoi says, if it doesn't snap with a good tug on these heavy materials it's generally mustard.
You can check rigs on scales without destroying them too. Just pull to your mainline equivalent bs
ip100 ip100
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Post #33 7 Sep 2021 07:54
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In reply to Post #32
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #34 7 Sep 2021 08:38
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In reply to Post #29
Your making a lot of noise but not actually backing up your claims which tells me I was right and it's all bluff
woody71
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Post #35 7 Sep 2021 09:14
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In reply to Post #34
does post 22 not give the reason? ok i will say it again with some physical meanings if it makes you happy?, do you agree when something is crimped a force is applied ? well it is

It is unlikely the mechanical force applied to the crimped material (line)will be equal on both sides of the crimp so when a loop is involved with nothing behind it one side of the line will move before the other which can cause slipping, friction and heat and result in premature failure.

When a crimp is applied direct to a swivel or ring etc the slipping, friction and heat doesn't occur the same so doesn't damage the line as much resulting in a stronger crimp.


Also how ironic of your dilusional quote "atm your looking like the normal idiots on fbook who make claims but actually understand none of it"
ip100 ip100
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Post #36 7 Sep 2021 09:43
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In reply to Post #35
Think you're wasting your time mate
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #37 7 Sep 2021 09:49
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The heat is clearly getting to some...
woody71
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Post #38 7 Sep 2021 09:52
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In reply to Post #36
Yes your right its quite ironic really as load testing and calibration of load cells is still part of my job we no longer actually calibrate scales on site as due to bsi regs we have to have an external company in to certify them
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #39 7 Sep 2021 11:01
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In reply to Post #35
See was that so hard??
ip100 ip100
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Post #40 7 Sep 2021 12:45
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In reply to Post #39
Surely "sorry you are correct" is what you meant to say?
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #43 8 Sep 2021 12:05
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In reply to Post #1
Perfection loop knot is also a good way of doing it.

Slightly more complicated but stronger and imo gives a better presentation of the loop.
Squimp
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Post #44 30 Sep 2021 08:35
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In reply to Post #43
Perfection loops are fine in heavy line - but it is a very inefficient knot so not suitable for lighter lines.

Try a non-slip mono loop. It's much more efficient and furthermore you can regulate the size of the loop as you tie it.
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #45 1 Oct 2021 08:09
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In reply to Post #44
I don't get what you mean by inefficient? anything over a 12lb and i have never had a issue with them and as OP stated its for a boom on a ronnie so guessing it would be heavier.
Squimp
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Post #46 1 Oct 2021 21:04
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In reply to Post #45
Inefficient as in a 100% knot in 12 lb line breaks at 12lb.

the perfection loop is closer to a 50% knot.
Carew Carew
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Post #47 1 Oct 2021 23:55
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In reply to Post #46
Agreed. Fly anglers will sometimes risk a perfection loop when accurate casting is absolutely necessary. I think that using perfection loops would ruin my enjoyment of carp fishing because the relatively weak knot strength would weigh on my mind
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