In reply to Post #25
I think unless the line is very slack and using a light bobbin the lead more often than not moves but the big advantage apart from better indication over a say a lead clip as i think you and others have said its harder for the fish to use the lead to shake the hook out as it slides away
I think unless the line is very slack and using a light bobbin the lead more often than not moves but the big advantage apart from better indication over a say a lead clip as i think you and others have said its harder for the fish to use the lead to shake the hook out as it slides away
In reply to Post #30
I've fished at 100yds+ with light bobbins and slack lines to good effect. Personally I wouldn't be using a light lead if dropping from a boat at range. The chances of getting back to the bank without having dragged the rig along the bottom would be remote IMO.
I've fished at 100yds+ with light bobbins and slack lines to good effect. Personally I wouldn't be using a light lead if dropping from a boat at range. The chances of getting back to the bank without having dragged the rig along the bottom would be remote IMO.
In reply to Post #32
Read lots of arguments , I'm sure if there was a way they was superior and stood out
we would all use it
Can't get my head around slack lining dynamics and that it's more sensitive
A fixed lead would still have the same dynamics with water resistance on the line?
Don't get me wrong I use semi slack and slackish lines all the time
This dosnt make me right
Think sometimes it just surprising Mr carp that's the difference
The only item of tackle I've ever found to make a difference so far is a hook😂
Read lots of arguments , I'm sure if there was a way they was superior and stood out
we would all use it
Can't get my head around slack lining dynamics and that it's more sensitive
A fixed lead would still have the same dynamics with water resistance on the line?
Don't get me wrong I use semi slack and slackish lines all the time
This dosnt make me right
Think sometimes it just surprising Mr carp that's the difference
The only item of tackle I've ever found to make a difference so far is a hook😂
In reply to Post #32
Thanks Andy, food for thought for me.
Thanks Andy, food for thought for me.
In reply to Post #33
Think of running leads with slack lines as the line is free running through a tube. Until you have pulled up the slack, it comes easily.
Now think of the same with a semi-fixed lead, or running (bolt rig) with a tight line to the rod tip, it is harder to pull.
Now equate that to indication, the running lead and slack line, the carp is taking line through that 'tube', on any movement, whichever direction it swims. You will get a bleep, indicator movement, until the slack line is pulled tight.
A semi-fixed lead on tight line is trying to 'cut through' the water.
Think of running leads with slack lines as the line is free running through a tube. Until you have pulled up the slack, it comes easily.
Now think of the same with a semi-fixed lead, or running (bolt rig) with a tight line to the rod tip, it is harder to pull.
Now equate that to indication, the running lead and slack line, the carp is taking line through that 'tube', on any movement, whichever direction it swims. You will get a bleep, indicator movement, until the slack line is pulled tight.
A semi-fixed lead on tight line is trying to 'cut through' the water.
In reply to Post #35
Yeah I understand what your saying I use running rigs and Fluoro for short range fishing
Bough some Gardner braid and I can't get it to sink
I haven't used it , only placed it along a margin
Maybe with a bit of use
So what's your thoughts when used with back leads
Would the sensitivity suffer? It shouldn't in theory just two tubes 😂
I can't stand using them , but have tried on a ressie to combat undertow
My Confidence in them is low
Edit when a say fixed lead I'm talking semi fixed with semi tight lines
So once the lead is lifted , then surely the line would behave the same
Yeah I understand what your saying I use running rigs and Fluoro for short range fishing
Bough some Gardner braid and I can't get it to sink
I haven't used it , only placed it along a margin
Maybe with a bit of use
So what's your thoughts when used with back leads
Would the sensitivity suffer? It shouldn't in theory just two tubes 😂
I can't stand using them , but have tried on a ressie to combat undertow
My Confidence in them is low
Edit when a say fixed lead I'm talking semi fixed with semi tight lines
So once the lead is lifted , then surely the line would behave the same
In reply to Post #36
Don't know whether it will work with the Gardner but a treatment with Kryston Greased Lightning certainly worked on Whiplash for me.
Don't know whether it will work with the Gardner but a treatment with Kryston Greased Lightning certainly worked on Whiplash for me.
In reply to Post #37
It makes ordinary whiplash sink ?
Do people who use braid use it in all situations ?
I use fluro for close range and on ressies with a flat bottom , no features etc
It makes ordinary whiplash sink ?
Do people who use braid use it in all situations ?
I use fluro for close range and on ressies with a flat bottom , no features etc
In reply to Post #38
Used it twice and it worked for me. I was told by the local tackle shop that whiplash sank and found it didn't. Having spent the money on 3 reels worth had to try something. On those 2 occasions it felt like reeling in fluoro.
Used it twice and it worked for me. I was told by the local tackle shop that whiplash sank and found it didn't. Having spent the money on 3 reels worth had to try something. On those 2 occasions it felt like reeling in fluoro.
In reply to Post #39
Very very rare do I use lead clips as the lakes I fish are pretty much open or I fish my local canal from may to September anyway,I feel for me personally I have no need to use a lead clip.
Very very rare do I use lead clips as the lakes I fish are pretty much open or I fish my local canal from may to September anyway,I feel for me personally I have no need to use a lead clip.