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Fox Frontier - new bivvy (630 posts / 70,814 views)
jastheace141
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Post #31 15 Sep 2020 09:24
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Really like the look of it me. I certainly wont be buying one straight out the shop though, been stung way too many times with being the paying field tester and I do agree with a poster below, any bivvy that comes with storm guides instantly makes me worry about how stable it is
ip100 ip100
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Post #32 15 Sep 2020 09:40
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It's a very expensive sieve....
TeeCee
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Post #33 15 Sep 2020 09:47
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Unless Trakker have some sort of deal with Fox, I'd say sue Fox to oblivion for direct copyright infringement.

About time they had their arses handed to them for ripping of other people's ideas.
sundance sundance
Posts: 6,762
Post #34 15 Sep 2020 09:54
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google the old fox explorer bivvy. it predates the tempest by a few years. and it had a skull cap.
its similar to the titan. this new borrows heavily from that. but with more of an evo arrangement at the front.
Glenn_B Glenn_B
Posts: 1,804
Post #35 15 Sep 2020 10:04
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Seriously go and have a word with yourself mate
sundance sundance
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Post #36 15 Sep 2020 10:23
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Wait till he sees Cyrpinus and Quest 😂
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #37 15 Sep 2020 10:43
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LMFAO
you dont get out much do you mate ?
blackfield blackfield
Posts: 2,651
Post #38 15 Sep 2020 11:02
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Sheesh..... some of these comments. Just a few observations. While the block has similarities to others, it has some unique differences and appears to have a very quick set up time. The poles come up almost vertically at the sides to maximise space while keeping the footprint sensible. The frontier and the x models are much more competitively priced than the tempest and It looks to be just as versatile at the tempest/typhoon.

It"looks" like a good alternative to the tempest. I guess build quality will be a case of wait and see, but I've had my share of ***** from other companies over the years.

If it's not for you, fine but let's wait and see what the feedback is from users before writing it off.
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #39 15 Sep 2020 11:07
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The forum would be no fun that way though .I think it looks very good and will be keeping a very close eye on feedback.I have had my fair share of trakker bivvies that have been utter dog *****.I now have the v2 bivvy and its actually a good one,a lad I fish with had 3 returns before he got a good one.I think most have issues from time to time
TeeCee
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Post #40 15 Sep 2020 11:18
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It might have a scullcap which no doubt was ripped off of the Pioneer, it's the block arrangement that's the same with a slight variation.

I wonder what Fox would make of say Nash bringing out a buzzer and remote that looked exactly the same as their RX buzzer setup, called it the XR and just put the dials upside down and a speaker jack?


braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #41 15 Sep 2020 11:32
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I'm sure they would not give a flying ****
blackfield blackfield
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Post #42 15 Sep 2020 11:41
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Not so sure about that..... fox took an injunction out against Nash in the early 90's when they introduced their stinger indicator.
Glenn_B Glenn_B
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Post #43 15 Sep 2020 11:45
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All Nash alarms look like they are upside down anyway. There is only so much you can do with bivvy design, look at the pramhood system that every company has used. Personally I love the Tempest type design for a bivvy, it is just a shame that they are all so poorly made and yes I have owned V1 and V2. If these new tweeks by Fox move things forward then this is good. As for people mentioning about the nylon joints then I'm all for this as you will get a degree of flex which should be more robust and longer lasting. The alloy poles of the V2 seem to be made of paper mache
sundance sundance
Posts: 6,762
Post #44 15 Sep 2020 15:04
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In reply to Post #40
The main Thing about the pioneer and tempest block is that it hinges. Everyone else seem to be
Avoiding that.
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #45 15 Sep 2020 15:11
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Quite like the look of it to be honest.

What else would I have liked to see, UV rating on the vapour peak, even on the bivvy upper, removable mesh panels so if you screw one up you can zip another in, being able to open the rain window without having to go outside to do it.

Concerns, that click into place centre pole, I hope it doesn't rely on plastic in the clip, ie it'll wear and no longer click into place.

Only problem, I'm still using my original Frontier every now and then, not to mention my V2 Air, not sure I'll get it past the Mrs.
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