In reply to Post #30
Depends what material you are using it with , and what type of presentation you are aiming at .
Imagine a chod rig with an inturned eye , it would close the gape right up , same if you are using stiff material with the multi
Depends what material you are using it with , and what type of presentation you are aiming at .
Imagine a chod rig with an inturned eye , it would close the gape right up , same if you are using stiff material with the multi
In reply to Post #31
on a chod i would say the out turned eye is to prevent line damage due to the fluoro and knotless knot and also to eliminate the risk of the hook drooping right over if the bait ring pivots on the hooklength side of the D more so than anything else, and neither apply on a multi.
just read MK's article and no sign of him using out turned eyes on bottoms, wafters or pop ups.
just my thoughts
on a chod i would say the out turned eye is to prevent line damage due to the fluoro and knotless knot and also to eliminate the risk of the hook drooping right over if the bait ring pivots on the hooklength side of the D more so than anything else, and neither apply on a multi.
just read MK's article and no sign of him using out turned eyes on bottoms, wafters or pop ups.
just my thoughts
In reply to Post #1
Curve 5 JP Hooks. Consistent results but I like to sit the hook very low off the deck
Curve 5 JP Hooks. Consistent results but I like to sit the hook very low off the deck
In reply to Post #33
another good example of what I have in mind
another good example of what I have in mind
In reply to Post #32
Not sure really what you mean , I personally have never tied a chod rig with fluoro I usually use the Korda mouth trap 25lb stuff and curve the chod section to continue the arc from the hook whipping , you wouldn't be able to do that with a curved or straight point hook with that material
I've used the multi rig on and off in various ways to good success for probably 10 years or more , what I was getting at is that various hooks can be used with the multi , be it for pop ups or bottom baits , suit the hook to the material , just my opinion of course
Not sure really what you mean , I personally have never tied a chod rig with fluoro I usually use the Korda mouth trap 25lb stuff and curve the chod section to continue the arc from the hook whipping , you wouldn't be able to do that with a curved or straight point hook with that material
I've used the multi rig on and off in various ways to good success for probably 10 years or more , what I was getting at is that various hooks can be used with the multi , be it for pop ups or bottom baits , suit the hook to the material , just my opinion of course
In reply to Post #35
yeah sorry i meant mouthtrap or the like for chods specifically but the point is the out turned eye is necessary due to the rigidity of the hooklink and you curve it to get the hook tilted over, but this isn't the case with a multi rig. Knotless knots with fluoro in particular and in-turned eyes is asking for trouble.
I just don't see the benefit of using an out turn with a multi rig pop up, seems more of a hindrance to me and just doesn't sit right when I've tested it, not for me anyway. I like the hook tilted over at around 45 degrees so it has a better chance of grabbing the lip.
yeah sorry i meant mouthtrap or the like for chods specifically but the point is the out turned eye is necessary due to the rigidity of the hooklink and you curve it to get the hook tilted over, but this isn't the case with a multi rig. Knotless knots with fluoro in particular and in-turned eyes is asking for trouble.
I just don't see the benefit of using an out turn with a multi rig pop up, seems more of a hindrance to me and just doesn't sit right when I've tested it, not for me anyway. I like the hook tilted over at around 45 degrees so it has a better chance of grabbing the lip.
In reply to Post #36
In my use of the multi it depends on what material you are tying it up with , if i am using a heavy stiff coated braid I'll use a chod hook and have a slight curve in the pop up section , whereas if I'm using lighter more flexible material , a straight point or curve with the pop up section straight sits much better for me
In my use of the multi it depends on what material you are tying it up with , if i am using a heavy stiff coated braid I'll use a chod hook and have a slight curve in the pop up section , whereas if I'm using lighter more flexible material , a straight point or curve with the pop up section straight sits much better for me
In reply to Post #37
makes sense cheers
makes sense cheers
Used an Ace chod hook for a few years and never had any issues. I could count on one hand the amount of fish ive dropped. Never really understood the need for tubing on it TBH? As long as the hookling material is a fairly stiff coated braid.
In reply to Post #26
Size 4 chodda all day long
Size 4 chodda all day long
In reply to Post #40
Agreed stiff rig pattern is best if using stiff material.
Agreed stiff rig pattern is best if using stiff material.
In reply to Post #41
Swapped over to a razor point size 4 curve yday on my multis and was the first time I've lost a fish on a large curve shank this year. Mortified, wondering possible reasons as generally people say curves are solid for hookholds on multi. The fish didn't take any line really just lots of head banging so maybe was a large tench.
Only other thing I can think it may have been due to a fairly short stiff multi, 5 inches boom ultra skin stiff
Any thoughts?
Hook point was fully turned over and loop pulled tight
Swapped over to a razor point size 4 curve yday on my multis and was the first time I've lost a fish on a large curve shank this year. Mortified, wondering possible reasons as generally people say curves are solid for hookholds on multi. The fish didn't take any line really just lots of head banging so maybe was a large tench.
Only other thing I can think it may have been due to a fairly short stiff multi, 5 inches boom ultra skin stiff
Any thoughts?
Hook point was fully turned over and loop pulled tight
In reply to Post #1
I found ESP Trighammers to work really well on multis.
I found ESP Trighammers to work really well on multis.
In reply to Post #42
If the hook point was fully turned over it could be a couple of things.
The hook point was already over when the fish was hooked giving a c***py hook hold. This could be gravel, silvers, crays moving it around.
Or possibly the hook hit bone when the fish was hooked and you got a bad hook hold.
Sometimes s**t happens, I wouldn't be too hasty to blame the hook pattern or rig.
If the hook point was fully turned over it could be a couple of things.
The hook point was already over when the fish was hooked giving a c***py hook hold. This could be gravel, silvers, crays moving it around.
Or possibly the hook hit bone when the fish was hooked and you got a bad hook hold.
Sometimes s**t happens, I wouldn't be too hasty to blame the hook pattern or rig.
In reply to Post #44
Thanks mate, it's generally one of those waters where if you do get a take its a fish over 25lb and not many other species around. Who knows maybe I just got unlucky
Tied a few more up tonight, decided to go a bit longer and semi stiff this time. Any idea if this is still fairly tangle proof on heli leadcore.
Any other feedback or anything that looks off about the rig please let me know and other comments welcome, bit confidence rocked lately
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Thanks mate, it's generally one of those waters where if you do get a take its a fish over 25lb and not many other species around. Who knows maybe I just got unlucky
Tied a few more up tonight, decided to go a bit longer and semi stiff this time. Any idea if this is still fairly tangle proof on heli leadcore.
Any other feedback or anything that looks off about the rig please let me know and other comments welcome, bit confidence rocked lately
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