In reply to Post #15
I only use a palomar knot now when tying hooks to fluorocarbon, had the hooklink snap too many times when using a knotless knot or whipping knot. (Not applicable to D rig though)

In reply to Post #15
I suppose it does depend on the fluorocarbon hooklink material you are using. If it's a stiffer material then it will be an issue but using something softer like IQ 2 or ESP soft ghost (which is what I use) I think it's less of a problem.

I'm also swapping rigs after each fish so there isn't a chance for continued stress to form in that area as a result of catching several fish on the same rig.

Everyone has their own experiences I suppose, which is why we tend to do things differently.

In reply to Post #17
ESP chod hammers (not the longer shanked trig hammer) are my new go-to for this rig. Points go over on them failry easily (because theyre so sharp!) but I dont mind this as I dont catch much anyway...

In reply to Post #18
I love the trig-hammers on a D rig. Again, sharp and hard to deal with for the carp I think.

I was thinking to use IQ2 with these. Its a hooklink I really rate and have got on well with in the past. I'm still torn as to the hook pattern though. Seems very 50/50 with Chod vs other style hook patterns

I use the Gardner chod hooks sharpened by J Hayward. They work for me. You must have a couple of each pattern about the place to tie a up a few tests and see what you feel.

In reply to Post #1
Hi Scotty,

Couldn't work out how to add a picture here - help appreciated

this is a twist on the D rig I'm currently testing, I normally use 20lb Amnesia to a Gardner chod hook size 4 but wanted to use Muggas

the trouble is, it closed the gape up too much for me (Someone here said about using shrink tube) Anyway check out my FB Picture link, using the coated braid allows me to use a Mugga and keep the gape - I do however end up with the small supple section so not stiff all the way through. No idea on effectiveness yet, any feedback welcome

Thanks

*** Pic posted above

In reply to Post #22
Your link to picture isnt working for me.

Try using imgbb, select HTML (medium) dead easy

In reply to Post #23
Thanks Mate

Feed back very welcome lads, update - tried the shrink tube with amnesia + mugga thing and didn't like it

In reply to Post #3
The single most important aspect of the rig is where it's put mate. I would use 25lb clear amnesia cheap as chips and reliable. A chod style hook is the best pattern when using amnesia I have found. I've seen how Tom ties this rig and I believe he ties it direct to the swivel and covers with a anti tangle sleeve?. Now he catches an awful lot of fish so I'm not knocking him. But tie it with a perfection loop knot to the swivel and drop it in the edge. You will notice on the decent the hook is hanging down in a perfect position. Tie it straight to the swivel and cover with a anti tangle sleeve you will see it sits awkward and most of the time the point is facing skyward. The loop at the swivel is an absolute must for me.

In reply to Post #24
I don't strip the coating back and tie them as below , very good hooking rig that has caught me countless fish on cray infested foreign venues , I do strip it back after I've tied the rig to create a hinge though sometimes ....

In reply to Post #26
Nice, I may well have seen your rigs on another post. I spose the term D rig is fairly broad for any type of D on shank, yours is like the DF IQ one but with coated braid, where as mine is slightly closer the original amnesia D at the hook eye. I'm sure both will do the job, will test my Mugga version out and see how it performs against the straight through chod hook version. Again I think they'll both catch fish.

Appreciate the pic

Excuse my ignorance but is this not known more as a slip d rig? I was thinking to go more with the version Tom Maker referred to as D Rig. I like the simplicity of that version. The D rig with the whipping knot looks fiddly and that kind of put me off. (It's probably really simple to tie) If I was going down that route I would probably use a D Rig Kicker.

I literally wanted to double the ‘hair' back through the eye to make the d. That is why I was questioning the hook pattern!

Scotty

In reply to Post #28
The Tom maker rig is what I call a D rig, originally (I think) tied with Amnesia so I refer to it as the D rig or Amnesia D rig

The slip D is stripped back and a doubled up loop on the shank acting as a soft D, that's able to "slip" shown in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h38SM3YyMz0

Or yeh just copy Tom Makers, I much prefer a fixed rigid D as it never tangles and is always reset. The soft slip D you can't guarantee its not tangling without PVA and even then its possible to tangle on fish rejections. Looks like he's using a wide gape beaked point in the pics I saw

The two pictures me and Carpe posted are just different takes on the "D" concept, ie a hook with some form of D on the shank for bait separation.

Hope this is useful
D

In reply to Post #1
Size 5 esp chod hammer to 20lb clear amnesia for me , bomb proof 👍