Thanks for explaining how they differ in construction but how do they differ in performance?

Can anyone explain why I would be better off using a slip d rather than a multi rig with a wafter. Otherwise I'll just stick to the multi rig

In reply to Post #16
I prefer the slip D, you can attach mesh bags/ stringer without fear of the D slipping.

In reply to Post #16
I personally use the combi multi rig (the same one as Daryl Peck) The rigs mechanics are the same, however the multi rig has a few pros + cons when compared to the slip d

Pros
- Allows the hook to be changed which is a massive edge when using sharpened hooks. This also saves money/time not having to tie new rigs everytime a hook is burred/blunt
- Can tell if a fish has picked up your hook if the hook has been pulled up to bait/d section (If a bird picks up the hookbait this wont happen)
- Able to change the hookbait attachment (micro swivel, ring, bait screw etc.) without tieing a new rig

The cons are the result of the main pro

- Hook can slide up to the bait on an abandoned take resulting in the rig mechanics being completely messed up
- Unable to put a pva bag/stringer on the hook due to the above happening.

In reply to Post #18
Why won't a bird move the loop but a fish will? Makes no sense

In reply to Post #19
The hook has to have pressure to move the loop if only the bait is pulled it will not pull the loop through.

Multi inside the pva bag - negates the con above

In reply to Post #20
Or tie up a small mesh bag with your hook bait in it, and then attatch the hookbait afterwards.

In reply to Post #18
You can use a stringer on the d instead of the hook 👍

In reply to Post #20
That's assuming the hook has taken hold in the fishes mouth. Which obviously doesn't happen all the time , so it's not really an indicator

In reply to Post #23
Its an indicator when comparing the combi rig to the slip d which this post is about? The slip d has no indication at all... No rig or lead setup will give you an indication if the hook doesn't take hold for a split second

In reply to Post #22
Great idea! Never thought of that

In reply to Post #24
But no way of differentiating between pick ups from birds or fish like you claimed earlier then?

In reply to Post #26
See post #20

A bird will purely go for the hookbait resulting in the hook not being touched and not sliding along the loop. Fish feed by sucking their food + debri and *fingers crossed* our hooks it is only when the hook has pressure applied from the weight that the hook slips along the loop giving the indication.

Try tying one and test 1) when you pull the hookbait and 2) when you pull the hook and see how the indication works and then come back

In reply to Post #27
I don't need to try and come back, I've been using the multi for long enough to know how it works. There is no 100,% way of knowing what causes a pickup as birds can get the hook too, just as fish can miss the hook .

In reply to Post #28
Fair enough...

I dont disagree with anything you have just said but you have to lean on the side of averages. Look back at my original post and read it carefully, nowhere do I say that if a bird picks up the hook then it wouldn't cause the indication, I specifically say hookbait, I also specifically say when the fish picks up the hook... Is this not clear enough?

So coming back to the averages how often do you think a bird picks up the hook when going for the hookbait? 1/100? 1/500? Then the average of a fish/carp picking up the hook when going for the hook bait? 1/5? 1/10? (that's probably conservative!) See the difference? The rig is designed to catch fish not birdlife

Then there is the assumption that your 1) fishing a lake with birdlife and 2) fishing in a depth where birdlife can see/reach your hook bait...

In reply to Post #28
Coming back on topic why do you use the multi instead of the slip d?