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Loops and how to do them? (50 posts / 5,766 views)
runneil runneil
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Post #16 5 Sep 2021 17:57
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I'll take your word for it , thanks
woody71
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Post #17 5 Sep 2021 21:21
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I would think its a good way of testing the strength of knots or crimps for that matter on a chosen line, this way doesn't test the true linear breaking strain of a line as knots or a connection are involved but in most fishing situations that i can think of i use knots
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #18 6 Sep 2021 09:41
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I've never tested anything apart from using a pulla tool just to tighten or straighten. don't see why you would need to. i can honestly say hand on heart ive never had a knot or krimp go.
ip100 ip100
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Post #19 6 Sep 2021 10:30
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Not really, it's close enough to get a decent idea
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #20 6 Sep 2021 11:22
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No it's not your exerting pressure and pulling which will
Judder and cause innaccurate measurements boom krimped with a loop breaks a couple lb under the stated strain but with no loop it's higher same with hybrid with a loop couple lb under but with no loop actually breaks at 30lb so yes that method is clearly innaccurate
ip100 ip100
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Post #21 6 Sep 2021 11:32
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Sorry but you're wrong. Of course you exert pressure and pull, it's how you do a pull test! . I don't know why you think anything will judder for starters, a smooth pull prevents that. It's not 100% accurate, but it's close enough to test your rigs with. I first tested line some 30 years ago using scales, and on the very few times since then I've felt the need to test anything I've used it again. Without some seriously expensive equipment it's as accurate as us anglers can get with what's at our disposal.
woody71
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Post #22 6 Sep 2021 12:09
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A crimped loop will nearly always be weaker than a crimped connection without a loop simple physics its highly unlikely both sides of the loop will be crimped equally so one will slip before the other causing a weakness without a loop it doesn't slip.

Testing something by applying pressure until it breaks is a very good and true way of testing a knot or crimped connection breaking strain on any given material.
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #23 6 Sep 2021 15:07
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What physics are those lol I'm general when people say it's simple physics they actually have no clue about physics and physics by their very nature aren't simple lol
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #24 6 Sep 2021 15:08
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Unless your testing it using an actual line testing device that is secured then no it's not accurate in the slightest scales are spring loaded and by their very nature will be innaccurate for testing the breaking strain
ip100 ip100
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Post #25 6 Sep 2021 16:07
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If you say so chap. You are completely wrong though. It is a FAIRLY accurate way, as I've said not as accurate as line testing machines no, but still good enough to get a decent idea of what's going on.
woody71
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Post #26 6 Sep 2021 16:12
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I thought you might not understand simple physics so i even explained the principles behind one side of a loop moving before the other side, the more you post about this subject just heightens my original view
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #27 6 Sep 2021 20:50
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No no do explain cos atm your looking like the normal idiots on fbook who make claims but actually understand none of it
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #28 6 Sep 2021 20:50
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I knew you had a rep on here for ridiculous posts but jeez
woody71
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Post #29 6 Sep 2021 21:28
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You can take a horse to water but cannot make it drink!
ip100 ip100
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Post #30 6 Sep 2021 23:02
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Ironic...
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