In reply to Post #14
Oh yes they do.
Oh yes they do.
In reply to Post #14
Could you explain why you think they don't work.
Could you explain why you think they don't work.
In reply to Post #17
They work a treat but only when the lead is still on as per the video link I posted
They work a treat but only when the lead is still on as per the video link I posted
In reply to Post #6
I fish two seriously weedy waters, and never drop leads. 99% of the the time I use in-lines. Bite to landed fish rate is 90%'ish. Work of fiction that you have to drop leads in all but the most extreme of circumstances (severe snags, hyper long range boat stuff, big rivers etc)
I fish two seriously weedy waters, and never drop leads. 99% of the the time I use in-lines. Bite to landed fish rate is 90%'ish. Work of fiction that you have to drop leads in all but the most extreme of circumstances (severe snags, hyper long range boat stuff, big rivers etc)
In reply to Post #17
Nope, but I'll explain why I KNOW they don't work. Because with no lead they have no anchor, and therefore don't work. They still need that anchor point to work properly.
Nope, but I'll explain why I KNOW they don't work. Because with no lead they have no anchor, and therefore don't work. They still need that anchor point to work properly.
In reply to Post #19
Totally agree, same scenario here.
Take angling out of the scenario. If you walked up to someone throwing lead into a water on a regular basis what would you think? Any person in their right mind must surely think what the hell. Lead is a known carcinogen to us, we have no idea what the long term effects are in a watercourse (other than shot) so why would you even think about doing it...for the sake of landing a fish
. Can't believe the antis aren't using dumping the lead against us.
As far as I'm concerned you are a custodian of that water and that doesn't just mean fishing, it means doing the best for the biosystem your caring for.
EDIT, though potential for conflict from author I hope this happens
Clicky
Totally agree, same scenario here.
Take angling out of the scenario. If you walked up to someone throwing lead into a water on a regular basis what would you think? Any person in their right mind must surely think what the hell. Lead is a known carcinogen to us, we have no idea what the long term effects are in a watercourse (other than shot) so why would you even think about doing it...for the sake of landing a fish
. Can't believe the antis aren't using dumping the lead against us. As far as I'm concerned you are a custodian of that water and that doesn't just mean fishing, it means doing the best for the biosystem your caring for.
EDIT, though potential for conflict from author I hope this happens
Clicky
In reply to Post #20
I did not mention dropping the lead. Many people including me have sent in posts about not dropping the lead on helicopter set ups on many threads. Some of which I seem to remember you contributing to. For no trace beads to work you must not drop the lead. Then they work every time. To quote your post
" they still need that anchor point to work properly"
Hmmm!! so they do work.
I did not mention dropping the lead. Many people including me have sent in posts about not dropping the lead on helicopter set ups on many threads. Some of which I seem to remember you contributing to. For no trace beads to work you must not drop the lead. Then they work every time. To quote your post
" they still need that anchor point to work properly"
Hmmm!! so they do work.
Hi All
I hope it's ok to post this, I have no financial interest in these guys
http://ufosinker.com
In my opinion gluing swivels into pebbles and "rocks" was always the best way to go, mainly as I normally row baits out.
I saw an article recently from a named "lovie" who was advocating dumping the leads. Dont get me wrong, he'd had a wonderful session, but his lead dropping antics had left nearly 3lb of lead in the lake in one session......
Makes you wonder.....
Best
Jon
I hope it's ok to post this, I have no financial interest in these guys
http://ufosinker.com
In my opinion gluing swivels into pebbles and "rocks" was always the best way to go, mainly as I normally row baits out.
I saw an article recently from a named "lovie" who was advocating dumping the leads. Dont get me wrong, he'd had a wonderful session, but his lead dropping antics had left nearly 3lb of lead in the lake in one session......
Makes you wonder.....
Best
Jon
Personally I try not to drop the lead unless I absolutely have to, and never with helicopter set-ups. Dropping the lead on heli's creates a potential length of line that can tether up in weed or snags.
In weed I used to use inline leads, losing very few fish or tackle.
In weed I used to use inline leads, losing very few fish or tackle.
In reply to Post #1
If you stood on the bank and threw a 3oz lead in your lake you would be committing a criminal offence.
So what makes it ok to drop that lead any other way?
If you stood on the bank and threw a 3oz lead in your lake you would be committing a criminal offence.
So what makes it ok to drop that lead any other way?
In reply to Post #25
A fact so conveniently ignored by so many.
A fact so conveniently ignored by so many.
Few facts about lead.
Whatever form it is in it is utterly toxic to all forms of life. There are many substances that in large enough amounts are toxic, copper, zinc and salt are 3, but they are essential to life in small amounts. Lead is one of very few elements that is wholly toxic and there are no safe levels.
Lead is incredibly persistent in the environment. Once it is there it doesn't go away. This is because it is not metabolised by living things but remains in their bodies until they die. Then it survives decomposition and is taken by new animals and plants. It doesn't matter if it oxidises or dissolves or combines with other substances it remains lethally toxic to life in all its forms. If you compare the levels of lead in a person born now to one born before 1850 the modern person has 400 times more lead in their bodies, and we are all stuck with it, to all intents for ever. This is largely due to leaded petrol plus the continued manufacture of lead products.
The toxic effects of lead are cumulative. Because living things can't get rid of it, every time they take more in the concentration in their bodies increases and never reduces. This means over time the further up the food chain you go the higher the concentration is. An example is Mercury in swordfish. Mercury being another toxic heavy metal.
Lead has many unpleasant effects on living things., birth defects, neurological damage, tissue damage leading to necrosis and permanent insanity and of course death in many unpleasant ways
Metallic lead is soluble in water. The pH will effect the rate of solubility. It is true that the rate of dissolving is very slow but all the leads that are on the bottom of lakes are dissolving into the environment.
We cannot continue with this fashion of dropping leads. We ARE POISONING OUR WATERS. slowly but nevertheless surely. Remember lead is a gift forever. It makes radiation look like confetti.
Whatever form it is in it is utterly toxic to all forms of life. There are many substances that in large enough amounts are toxic, copper, zinc and salt are 3, but they are essential to life in small amounts. Lead is one of very few elements that is wholly toxic and there are no safe levels.
Lead is incredibly persistent in the environment. Once it is there it doesn't go away. This is because it is not metabolised by living things but remains in their bodies until they die. Then it survives decomposition and is taken by new animals and plants. It doesn't matter if it oxidises or dissolves or combines with other substances it remains lethally toxic to life in all its forms. If you compare the levels of lead in a person born now to one born before 1850 the modern person has 400 times more lead in their bodies, and we are all stuck with it, to all intents for ever. This is largely due to leaded petrol plus the continued manufacture of lead products.
The toxic effects of lead are cumulative. Because living things can't get rid of it, every time they take more in the concentration in their bodies increases and never reduces. This means over time the further up the food chain you go the higher the concentration is. An example is Mercury in swordfish. Mercury being another toxic heavy metal.
Lead has many unpleasant effects on living things., birth defects, neurological damage, tissue damage leading to necrosis and permanent insanity and of course death in many unpleasant ways
Metallic lead is soluble in water. The pH will effect the rate of solubility. It is true that the rate of dissolving is very slow but all the leads that are on the bottom of lakes are dissolving into the environment.
We cannot continue with this fashion of dropping leads. We ARE POISONING OUR WATERS. slowly but nevertheless surely. Remember lead is a gift forever. It makes radiation look like confetti.
In reply to Post #22
You do realise the title of the thread is "dropping the lead"?
You do realise the title of the thread is "dropping the lead"?
In reply to Post #28
That's why I have written about lead and the dangers of dropping it.
That's why I have written about lead and the dangers of dropping it.
In reply to Post #29
So why make dopey comments then?
So why make dopey comments then?