Hi guys can i ask when would the best time to use a solid bag in carp fishing! would this be when fishing into weed pockets and if you dont know what bottoms like or layer of weed on bottom!
can you use solid bag in open water and what would be advantage of doing this over say single bait rig and spoming over top!
new to carp fishing and still getting my gear together to get out end of month!
can you use solid bag in open water and what would be advantage of doing this over say single bait rig and spoming over top!
new to carp fishing and still getting my gear together to get out end of month!
In reply to Post #1
I use bags 99% of my fishing it gives me confidence baits presented right regardless of the bottom,whether it's a canal(my preferred choice) or a lake or even a slow moving river
I use bags 99% of my fishing it gives me confidence baits presented right regardless of the bottom,whether it's a canal(my preferred choice) or a lake or even a slow moving river
In reply to Post #2
thanks for info bud! would it be with just normal bait or pop up! or dont really matter when bag fishing!
thanks for info bud! would it be with just normal bait or pop up! or dont really matter when bag fishing!
In reply to Post #1
You can use them any time, but they are particularly good for fishing in low lying weed, as you can get your lead and rig to the lakebed before the bag dissolves. They will present over dirty/weedy bottoms where conventional bottom bait rigs won't.
Some people use a pop up but personally I prefer a bottom bait or wafter
You can use them any time, but they are particularly good for fishing in low lying weed, as you can get your lead and rig to the lakebed before the bag dissolves. They will present over dirty/weedy bottoms where conventional bottom bait rigs won't.
Some people use a pop up but personally I prefer a bottom bait or wafter
In reply to Post #1
Deep silt is probably the only time that you aren't presented when using a solid bag. Deep silkweed can also be an issue as it can get covered but on the whole, you can use them in most situations
Low pop up or a wafter for me but they often just have the lot so i wouldn't worry too much
Deep silt is probably the only time that you aren't presented when using a solid bag. Deep silkweed can also be an issue as it can get covered but on the whole, you can use them in most situations
Low pop up or a wafter for me but they often just have the lot so i wouldn't worry too much
In reply to Post #1
Use them at any time.
They give decent presentation over weedy bottoms, and can be something different to what others may be doing, or keep some bait tight to your hook, be that pellets, whole and/or crumbled boilies, Vitalin or other groundbait, even particles prepped in salted water.
Over silt they may actually stop the bait sinking in too deep if you only attach the bag to the hook, other times you might want lead, rig and bait inside.
Experiment with what works for you
Use them at any time.
They give decent presentation over weedy bottoms, and can be something different to what others may be doing, or keep some bait tight to your hook, be that pellets, whole and/or crumbled boilies, Vitalin or other groundbait, even particles prepped in salted water.
Over silt they may actually stop the bait sinking in too deep if you only attach the bag to the hook, other times you might want lead, rig and bait inside.
Experiment with what works for you
In reply to Post #6
Mmm wouldn't use a solid in deep silt (5"+) as a weighted bag will sink and effectively be sitting in the silt rather than on it - maybe a heavily foamed up parachute bag. Light weed and hard bottoms solid bags all day long . . .
Mmm wouldn't use a solid in deep silt (5"+) as a weighted bag will sink and effectively be sitting in the silt rather than on it - maybe a heavily foamed up parachute bag. Light weed and hard bottoms solid bags all day long . . .
In reply to Post #1
I tend to use pva mesh in the original size funnel size - easier to work with that bags. Can still dunk them in hydro's before casting out and haven't got to worry about getting all the air out so they sink properly. And cheaper.
Solid bags when fishing long range though.
Or at short range, use the method.....
I tend to use pva mesh in the original size funnel size - easier to work with that bags. Can still dunk them in hydro's before casting out and haven't got to worry about getting all the air out so they sink properly. And cheaper.
Solid bags when fishing long range though.
Or at short range, use the method.....
In reply to Post #8
Always mesh for me quicker and less messing around. If threaded on the rig does the same thing. In 30 years of carping never used a solid bag.
Always mesh for me quicker and less messing around. If threaded on the rig does the same thing. In 30 years of carping never used a solid bag.
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In reply to Post #6
Mmm wouldn't use a solid in deep silt (5"+) as a weighted bag will sink and effectively be sitting in the silt rather than on it - maybe a heavily foamed up parachute bag. Light weed and hard bottoms solid bags all day long . . .
If the fish are feeding in the silt, then fishing in the silt may be better than fishing on it
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Mmm wouldn't use a solid in deep silt (5"+) as a weighted bag will sink and effectively be sitting in the silt rather than on it - maybe a heavily foamed up parachute bag. Light weed and hard bottoms solid bags all day long . . .
If the fish are feeding in the silt, then fishing in the silt may be better than fishing on it
In reply to Post #10
Agree but they've still got to find it and therefore a sunken bag has no real advantage over a sunken single IMO
Agree but they've still got to find it and therefore a sunken bag has no real advantage over a sunken single IMO
In reply to Post #10
So good I said it twice (DP apols)
So good I said it twice (DP apols)
In reply to Post #11
Agree but they've still got to find it and therefore a sunken bag has no real advantage over a sunken single IMO
A sunken single might not be enough to get them feeding, or picking the bait up, where a sunken bag might well do so.
Would you fish a single maggot in the silt?
Yet fish a pva bag of maggots in the silt and you get the right results.
Agree but they've still got to find it and therefore a sunken bag has no real advantage over a sunken single IMO
A sunken single might not be enough to get them feeding, or picking the bait up, where a sunken bag might well do so.
Would you fish a single maggot in the silt?
Yet fish a pva bag of maggots in the silt and you get the right results.
In reply to Post #13
Will concede to your point on maggots - only on the proviso they're live as some may wriggle up to the top! Suppose my view on silt is that most carp are sight and smell feeders, so by burying baits your bite rate is halved effectively . . .
Will concede to your point on maggots - only on the proviso they're live as some may wriggle up to the top! Suppose my view on silt is that most carp are sight and smell feeders, so by burying baits your bite rate is halved effectively . . .
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Will concede to your point on maggots - only on the proviso they're live as some may wriggle up to the top! Suppose my view on silt is that most carp are sight and smell feeders, so by burying baits your bite rate is halved effectively . .
For years I used to prefer my baits on top of the silt, until I watched the carp ignoring baits on top of it as they dug into it to get to whatever natural food was in it.
The honest answer is that some silt stinks, so carp may prefer to pick food off the top, yet other silt is 'fresh' and full of food.
Will concede to your point on maggots - only on the proviso they're live as some may wriggle up to the top! Suppose my view on silt is that most carp are sight and smell feeders, so by burying baits your bite rate is halved effectively . .
For years I used to prefer my baits on top of the silt, until I watched the carp ignoring baits on top of it as they dug into it to get to whatever natural food was in it.
The honest answer is that some silt stinks, so carp may prefer to pick food off the top, yet other silt is 'fresh' and full of food.