Hi all.
I have been doing well this season using helicopter rigs on a weedy water, getting a much better presentation on the weed and scruffy areas then I was with lead clips, and my catch rate has gone up, however I do wind in and find on occasions a kink in the hook link which must be a tangle I think.
I tie my hooklinks (stiff coated braid) with a loop and cover the quick link, but just wondered if others have found the same and if you've got any methods that help avoid it?
Im generally fishing balanced baits but will switch to pop ups if needed.
Any little tips appreciated no matter how small - have you tried anti tangle sleeves and they work? Etc!
I am not switching back to lead clips on this water but I do use them on other waters and they work well and don't find they tangle as much, but helis doing the job on here
Using leadcore as leader, if that helps
Cheers all ! Rick
I have been doing well this season using helicopter rigs on a weedy water, getting a much better presentation on the weed and scruffy areas then I was with lead clips, and my catch rate has gone up, however I do wind in and find on occasions a kink in the hook link which must be a tangle I think.
I tie my hooklinks (stiff coated braid) with a loop and cover the quick link, but just wondered if others have found the same and if you've got any methods that help avoid it?
Im generally fishing balanced baits but will switch to pop ups if needed.
Any little tips appreciated no matter how small - have you tried anti tangle sleeves and they work? Etc!
I am not switching back to lead clips on this water but I do use them on other waters and they work well and don't find they tangle as much, but helis doing the job on here
Using leadcore as leader, if that helps
Cheers all ! Rick
In reply to Post #1
Feather the rig down before it hits the water
Feather the rig down before it hits the water
In reply to Post #1
If you're clipping up, make sure you hit the clip just right. A tiny bit too early or late can lead to those tell tale kinks that tell you there's been a tangle.
I personally don't think heli's are as tangle proof as some guys think. Yes they're sound if you hit the clip just right but like any rig, get it even slightly wrong and there's risk of tangles.
If you're clipping up, make sure you hit the clip just right. A tiny bit too early or late can lead to those tell tale kinks that tell you there's been a tangle.
I personally don't think heli's are as tangle proof as some guys think. Yes they're sound if you hit the clip just right but like any rig, get it even slightly wrong and there's risk of tangles.
Thank you both! I think it might be a timing issue on hitting the clip as well.
Last time fishing into heavy winds which has an effect, especially with heavy mono.
Definitely agree with you Yonny, helis definitely tangle more/are less forgiving than a lead clip.
Interestingly having thought this through a lot and thought about the spots i am catching from, i think that they are firm enough for a lead clip - i think the amount of weed fried my brain a bit to begin with, but I am going to try a lead clip on these spots in future as well as be really concious of how I hit the clip.
thanks for the sound advice chaps, appreciated
Last time fishing into heavy winds which has an effect, especially with heavy mono.
Definitely agree with you Yonny, helis definitely tangle more/are less forgiving than a lead clip.
Interestingly having thought this through a lot and thought about the spots i am catching from, i think that they are firm enough for a lead clip - i think the amount of weed fried my brain a bit to begin with, but I am going to try a lead clip on these spots in future as well as be really concious of how I hit the clip.
thanks for the sound advice chaps, appreciated
Do either of you, or anyone else, use a anti tangle sleeve on a heli rig or do you use a loop connection? Do you think the anti tangle sleeve makes a difference, or more likely down to hitting the clip just right?
In reply to Post #5
Yeah I use a sleeve mate but hitting the clip perfectly makes more of a difference imo.
Yeah I use a sleeve mate but hitting the clip perfectly makes more of a difference imo.
In reply to Post #6
Cheers Yonny
Cheers Yonny
In reply to Post #1
I've been using the heli since it was popularised way back when, on tube, naked, leadcore, cast, bait boats dropped from boats etc all variants. I mostly use a softish but thick braided hook lenghts, one thing I do a little different from the norm is to not use a ring swivel on the line but to use a QC big eyed swivel with a longish sleeve, this causes the hook length to “hang” at a right angle and as almost negates tangles.
I also if I can get away with( silt/weed allowing), fish with a semi fixed bottom bead and just a little amount of movement between the top and bottom beads this on a cast “forces” the bait to helicopter around the main long and as expected reduces tangles.
As previously mentioned when clipped up you can also feather the cast especially on longer cast.
I've been using the heli since it was popularised way back when, on tube, naked, leadcore, cast, bait boats dropped from boats etc all variants. I mostly use a softish but thick braided hook lenghts, one thing I do a little different from the norm is to not use a ring swivel on the line but to use a QC big eyed swivel with a longish sleeve, this causes the hook length to “hang” at a right angle and as almost negates tangles.
I also if I can get away with( silt/weed allowing), fish with a semi fixed bottom bead and just a little amount of movement between the top and bottom beads this on a cast “forces” the bait to helicopter around the main long and as expected reduces tangles.
As previously mentioned when clipped up you can also feather the cast especially on longer cast.
In reply to Post #8
Thank you mate, appreciated
Thank you mate, appreciated
In reply to Post #6
What does "hitting the clip perfectly" mean? I think I know but would be interested in what others define this as.
What does "hitting the clip perfectly" mean? I think I know but would be interested in what others define this as.
In reply to Post #5
Yes I do . I personally think it makes a big difference . Size 11 quick change ring swivel and a large anti tangle sleeve . I find it only tangles on the worst casts . I do use quite stiff material for hooklink though
Yes I do . I personally think it makes a big difference . Size 11 quick change ring swivel and a large anti tangle sleeve . I find it only tangles on the worst casts . I do use quite stiff material for hooklink though
In reply to Post #10
To me
When it just about hit the clip and doesn't come back 20 yards or cracks off
It just feels and sounds right
To me
When it just about hit the clip and doesn't come back 20 yards or cracks off
It just feels and sounds right
In reply to Post #11
Thanks mate - what hooklink are you using, if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks mate - what hooklink are you using, if you don't mind me asking?
In reply to Post #10
Not too early giving time for bounce-back, and not too late so the rig doesn't have time to flick fully away from the lead/leader. You need it just right so the clip is hit, the rig/hookbait flicks away from the lead, the tip goes down on a tight line.... perfect. You just know when it's right imo.
Not too early giving time for bounce-back, and not too late so the rig doesn't have time to flick fully away from the lead/leader. You need it just right so the clip is hit, the rig/hookbait flicks away from the lead, the tip goes down on a tight line.... perfect. You just know when it's right imo.
@framey and yonny - yes, that's how I interpret it too; you know when it's not right.