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Jason Hayward sharpened muggas (23 posts / 3,664 views)
shilts
Posts: 684
Post #1 23 Mar 2022 20:21
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What are peoples opinions of these please ? I have used Korda Kamakuras before but found these turn over fairly easily . Just wondering how the two compare , thanks.
framey framey
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Post #2 23 Mar 2022 20:40
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In reply to Post #1
All sharpened hooks are honed to such a point (see what I did there ) that anything can turn them over
Class them all as 1 fish hooks.
Doing_a_brew Doing_a_brew
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Post #3 23 Mar 2022 20:41
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In reply to Post #1
Just had a couple of packets delivered today in 6 and 4. They're sharp but are a more evenly tapered point than the Kamakuras, which are ground to a fine bendy needle in the last few mm. The Muggas are definitely more robust than Kamakuras, though it's all relative and they won't take a hammering obviously.
shilts
Posts: 684
Post #4 23 Mar 2022 20:54
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In reply to Post #3
Thanks . I thought that maybe as they are sharpened differently they maybe a little more robust than Kamakuras . I'm only looking at half a dozen bites a season anyway on the waters that I fish so thought they might give me an advantage over hooks straight out of the packet , thanks.
yonny yonny
Posts: 7,940
Post #5 23 Mar 2022 20:59
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In reply to Post #1
See/read for yourself buddy:

http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Articles/ArticleEngine.asp?AID=14
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #6 24 Mar 2022 00:01
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In reply to Post #1
I think it makes no difference personally sharpened Hooks, the risk of the point going is very high and that will cost more fish than the positives of a sharpened hook getting any extra bites. Point can go before you've even had a take, why would you do that. Seems bonkers to me. Rather a sharpish hook straight out packet that stays sharp until you get the pick up (or beyond). Just my opinion.
shilts
Posts: 684
Post #7 24 Mar 2022 06:35
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In reply to Post #6
Thanks for all the replies . Yonny, that is a very informative piece thanks . I'm just trying to increase my odds slightly . As said before the waters I fish I'm probably looking at half a dozen bites a season so certainly not a runs water . Ph wise , no sharpened hooks I've used in the past have suffered from corrosion . Also not overly gravely either so probably a good candidate for hand sharpened hooks . The only thing that put me off in the past with the Kamakuras is how delicate they are . The only other option for a hand sharpened hook is to do it myself. I'll be brutally honest though in saying that ‘I'm not that good' at it , thanks,
yonny yonny
Posts: 7,940
Post #8 24 Mar 2022 07:49
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In reply to Post #7
I'm just trying to increase my odds slightly
If you look after sharpened hooks, understand the risks, and mitigate said risks, you'll increase your odds SIGNIFICANTLY imo.

I agree those Kamakuras are just that little bit too fragile. I'll only really use them for zigs. The JH ones are the daddy though mate.

The simple fact is that a sharper hook is a more effective hook and I personally don't have time to debate with anyone that takes exception to that. You just need to mitigate the risks associated with using them.
maplecream
Posts: 723
Post #9 24 Mar 2022 08:36
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In reply to Post #1
They will increase you odds of a hook up imo, I wouldnt bother on a prolific water, but in your situation they will be a good choice.
I've used he's sharpened esp grippers, done v well, definitely a one fish hook though.
shilts
Posts: 684
Post #10 24 Mar 2022 08:39
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In reply to Post #8
Thanks for that . How do you rate Korda's Kama kote as a protection? I've not seen the sticks of Jason's before so not sure how they compare . They do seem a different type of protection- one seems like a grease where as Jason's appears like a wax , thanks .
yonny yonny
Posts: 7,940
Post #11 24 Mar 2022 09:38
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In reply to Post #10
The Kama Kote is better than it looks mate. A good 24 on the deck and at least 48 protection on the zigs
shilts
Posts: 684
Post #12 24 Mar 2022 10:18
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In reply to Post #11
Ah right , thanks . Might have to get some of these hooks to try . I use mugga's a lot now and they seem fairly sharp out of the packets but I'm guessing Jason's hooks will be another level . I'm ok touching up a hook when needed but wouldn't trust myself to sharpen them from scratch 🤣
RPCARPY RPCARPY
Posts: 181
Post #13 24 Mar 2022 11:29
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Jason's hooks have to be seen to be believe, they are deadly. Best of the best!
JeffE JeffE
Posts: 1,198
Post #14 24 Mar 2022 11:36
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I get all my hooks sharpened by Jason. I fish a few different places and of course the rules are always different at each venue and I end up fishing barbed and barbless and with different patterns. I think he does a great job. I looked at Kamakura's and I didn't like the look of the point at all.

The only hook I've never asked Jason to sharpen is a Mugga funnily enough. They always seem to be very sharp straight out of the packet.
JamieWest
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Post #15 24 Mar 2022 19:07
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Anyone used Jason's own Ultra sharp range of hooks. Particularly the wide gape?.
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