Which do you prefer and why ?
In reply to Post #1
I prefer the rig ring as I like to think it resets itself, I worry with Tubing if I get done and don't know about it then it moves up the hook and isn't sat right.
Both have their pros and cons, just my opinion
I prefer the rig ring as I like to think it resets itself, I worry with Tubing if I get done and don't know about it then it moves up the hook and isn't sat right.
Both have their pros and cons, just my opinion
In reply to Post #2
a nice pro with using silicon is that you DO know you have been done and can tweek the rig.
a nice pro with using silicon is that you DO know you have been done and can tweek the rig.
In reply to Post #1
Ring every time, the silicone not returning to its original position if ejected is a problem for me. We get done more often than we think, no rig nails them every time so I want mine to be as close to how Its meant to be as possible and using tubing means that doesn't happen.
Ring every time, the silicone not returning to its original position if ejected is a problem for me. We get done more often than we think, no rig nails them every time so I want mine to be as close to how Its meant to be as possible and using tubing means that doesn't happen.
In reply to Post #3
I don't reckon you always know. It's not 100% and I'd definitely rather have a better chance 2nd or 3rd time round before reeling in in the morning. Also not suggesting a ring resets how it should all the time but more frequently of course.
Stopped using tubing as soon as I'd cottoned onto rings.
Unless stalking then maybe you can see what's going on. But even then perhaps one fish does you but another one is right next to it coming in for your bait and you don't wanna take it out.
Tubing is a thing of the past for me personally.
I don't reckon you always know. It's not 100% and I'd definitely rather have a better chance 2nd or 3rd time round before reeling in in the morning. Also not suggesting a ring resets how it should all the time but more frequently of course.
Stopped using tubing as soon as I'd cottoned onto rings.
Unless stalking then maybe you can see what's going on. But even then perhaps one fish does you but another one is right next to it coming in for your bait and you don't wanna take it out.
Tubing is a thing of the past for me personally.
In reply to Post #5
Moved away from rings and silicone altogether now, a 2-3 turn whipping knot on the shank will do a much better job and only move if absolutely necessary
Moved away from rings and silicone altogether now, a 2-3 turn whipping knot on the shank will do a much better job and only move if absolutely necessary
In reply to Post #6
Could that really be classed as a blowback rig? Isn't that movement a big part of the rigs efficiency?
Could that really be classed as a blowback rig? Isn't that movement a big part of the rigs efficiency?
In reply to Post #1
I used to use a ring on a blowback rig but have since improvised a new version.
The hookpoint goes through the braid and the braid is held in place on the shank but can slide up to the eye when the fish tries to blow out the rig so it works just like a ring free blowback.
It works perfectly.
I used to use a ring on a blowback rig but have since improvised a new version.
The hookpoint goes through the braid and the braid is held in place on the shank but can slide up to the eye when the fish tries to blow out the rig so it works just like a ring free blowback.
It works perfectly.
In reply to Post #1
. . .silicone . . prefer to know when (and if) I've been done . . Also not sure that the ring always does 're-set' itself - the chance that's its sitting at the eye of the hook after ejection is just as likely IMHO . . .which would make it no different to a silicone rig that had already been blown back . . .not sure either is a big problem as if using wafters it becomes a KD rig of sorts at this stage anyway . . .
Either way these days prefer the 'Ultimate' Rig (Mark Bryant Slip D) as an improved indicator of whether I've been done or not . . .for a more effective 're-set' rig for finnicky fish the DF 'IQ' D rig gives me more confidence than pretty much any other rig . . .
. . .silicone . . prefer to know when (and if) I've been done . . Also not sure that the ring always does 're-set' itself - the chance that's its sitting at the eye of the hook after ejection is just as likely IMHO . . .which would make it no different to a silicone rig that had already been blown back . . .not sure either is a big problem as if using wafters it becomes a KD rig of sorts at this stage anyway . . .
Either way these days prefer the 'Ultimate' Rig (Mark Bryant Slip D) as an improved indicator of whether I've been done or not . . .for a more effective 're-set' rig for finnicky fish the DF 'IQ' D rig gives me more confidence than pretty much any other rig . . .
In reply to Post #8
I use this myself, simple but effective
I use this myself, simple but effective
Ring
Isn't the idea of this rig is that if you reel in and the ring has been blown back over the eye then you know you've been done
Can't see how this would work with silicone
Isn't the idea of this rig is that if you reel in and the ring has been blown back over the eye then you know you've been done
Can't see how this would work with silicone
In reply to Post #11
Silicone lets you know if you've been done, the ring does not.
However for me, the version with the ring is the true 'blow back' rig as it allows the fish to try and eject the bait while the hook remains in place. The ring runs more smoothly on the hook shank than silicone
Silicone lets you know if you've been done, the ring does not.
However for me, the version with the ring is the true 'blow back' rig as it allows the fish to try and eject the bait while the hook remains in place. The ring runs more smoothly on the hook shank than silicone
In reply to Post #11
Yes Philip that was the original idea, the ring would slide all the way back over the eye. Trouble these days is people don't use a large enough ring for that to happen.
Yes Philip that was the original idea, the ring would slide all the way back over the eye. Trouble these days is people don't use a large enough ring for that to happen.
In reply to Post #13
And that's because once the ring has gone over the eye it makes the rig innefective,just like it does when using silicone
And that's because once the ring has gone over the eye it makes the rig innefective,just like it does when using silicone
I use both tbh but one thing I think people don't think about is how many times with silicone do we get done and the silicone is pushed up the shank but only for another fish to come along and get hooked even tho the silicones moved 