Just curious what most of you guys use. I use a palomar knot myself but a lot of people prefer a needle knot to leader.

Curious why that is as its no safer for dropping rigs and more effort to do?

In reply to Post #1
I use loop to loops myself.

I have all my hooklinks set up with leads ready to be looped on.

also works very well with solid bags.

In reply to Post #2
Yeah loop to loop decent but as i fish my leaders with korda leader safe lead systems not really viable as 2nd loop on leader would have to be huge

Needle knot

In reply to Post #3
It's the loop om the mainline that is large enough to loop it on. The loops on te leadcore cab be as small as possible

In reply to Post #5
Unless i feel like redoing all my pre made leaders fitted with heli safe systems i can't use loop to loop system as you loop through mainline then leader for the knot. Heli safe system gets in the way no?

In reply to Post #6
Not sure what you mean - helisafe makes no difference


tie a figure 8 loop in mainline - Pass loop through small loop on end of leader - pass rest of leader (including helisafe) through the loop in mainline - pull tight. Simple as that.

for the record I use a 5 turn grinner

In reply to Post #7
Yeah see what you mean. Mainline through tiny loop then heliflsafe through mainline loop

In reply to Post #8
spot on.

i use this method for all leaders.

same for my spod/marker rod, tie a large loop in the braid and loop to loop the spod or marker.
fast and easy.

In reply to Post #9
Can i ask the actual benefits of grinner/needle/loop system over polamar which i am using presently or is it just a preference thing?

In reply to Post #10
Is the loop to loop as strong as a normal knot (Palomar, Grinner, Bloodknot) for the connection with the leader?

For solid bag fishing on some of my waters I'm not so worried because carp's average size will be mid 20's.

But for fishing on weedy lake with hard fighting big carp I am always a bit scared of loop knots.

In reply to Post #10
Loop system is quicker to change, but other than that, not a lot.

In reply to Post #9
I also do another loop knot about 1cm away from the end of the loop on the braid which leaves a little tag end that enables you to pull and change between lead and spod or what ever you need to attach really easily....

In reply to Post #13
I don't use lead core but a Willis knot seems a good knot
works on the esp stuff definitely , as I was thinking about using it at a
Local ressie
Thread the mono through the lead core after removing the lead and tie a single granny that's it
Didn't seem to work on other materials I tested
Whatever you use , really abuse it before fishing

In reply to Post #13
Double post