First post on here, so apologies if this is going over old news...
I'm and angler and i'm also lucky enough to be a fishery owner. I have a 7 acre lake with a fish to nearly 40lb...it's a members only lake. There is some weed but no snags. There is a boat within 30 seconds of each peg. Longest chuck is 110 yards.
I hate the thought of all the leads being dropped. There are folk far more educated than me stating lead does have toxic effects in fresh water with a ph under 7....
If people drop the tiniest bit of litter on the bank i ban them for life - yet people are dropping leads because it's the right thing to do.
If you had a lake - What rules around lead would you enforce and why? Really keen to hear peoples opinions on this.
Many thanks in advance.
Mickey
I'm and angler and i'm also lucky enough to be a fishery owner. I have a 7 acre lake with a fish to nearly 40lb...it's a members only lake. There is some weed but no snags. There is a boat within 30 seconds of each peg. Longest chuck is 110 yards.
I hate the thought of all the leads being dropped. There are folk far more educated than me stating lead does have toxic effects in fresh water with a ph under 7....
If people drop the tiniest bit of litter on the bank i ban them for life - yet people are dropping leads because it's the right thing to do.
If you had a lake - What rules around lead would you enforce and why? Really keen to hear peoples opinions on this.
Many thanks in advance.
Mickey
In reply to Post #1
Yes it has been mentioned on here before but it's a subject that deserves another airing IMO.
Here's some old threads
You'll have to sift through it, some of it is about NOT dropping leads on heli rigs but that's more to do with safety reasons than littering.
My own opinions is I don't normally drop the lead unless lake rules force me to. I reckon much of it is a ploy to make us buy more leads
Yes it has been mentioned on here before but it's a subject that deserves another airing IMO.
Here's some old threads
You'll have to sift through it, some of it is about NOT dropping leads on heli rigs but that's more to do with safety reasons than littering.
My own opinions is I don't normally drop the lead unless lake rules force me to. I reckon much of it is a ploy to make us buy more leads
In reply to Post #1
Mickey, at the end of the day its your lake, you decide but more power to you for asking for informed opinions.
Dropping leads, most fisheries struggle with people fishing with death rigs that DONT or cant drop the lead.
I remember, we hooked and landed carp in all sorts of environments long before 'dropping' leads became the in vogue thing to do. IMO, unless the lake is seriously weedy, there's no need for such an action. Id do it in only the most extreme situations and to be fair, when the weeds that bad, most don't fish those swims anyway. 99% of carp anglers hate weed.
Mickey, at the end of the day its your lake, you decide but more power to you for asking for informed opinions.
Dropping leads, most fisheries struggle with people fishing with death rigs that DONT or cant drop the lead.
I remember, we hooked and landed carp in all sorts of environments long before 'dropping' leads became the in vogue thing to do. IMO, unless the lake is seriously weedy, there's no need for such an action. Id do it in only the most extreme situations and to be fair, when the weeds that bad, most don't fish those swims anyway. 99% of carp anglers hate weed.
On many golf courses with water hazards, they hire divers(maybe once a year) to remove balls from the lakes/ponds around the course. The lake balls are then sold on to members, obviously at a reduced price.
Is it not viable to do the same thing for a fishery but with leads?
Is it not viable to do the same thing for a fishery but with leads?
In reply to Post #1
I haven't dropped a lead in years, if it's weedy just go down to 2 or even 1 1/2oz, seems to make no difference to hooking capabilities but makes a big difference when playing fish.
I haven't dropped a lead in years, if it's weedy just go down to 2 or even 1 1/2oz, seems to make no difference to hooking capabilities but makes a big difference when playing fish.
In reply to Post #5
Also inline leads help, more streamline.
As a lake owner I certainly wouldn't make it compulsory to drop the lead, I would make my thoughts known to the anglers and ask them to think twice before doing so. I wouldn't try and dictate to them how they should fish though.
Also inline leads help, more streamline.
As a lake owner I certainly wouldn't make it compulsory to drop the lead, I would make my thoughts known to the anglers and ask them to think twice before doing so. I wouldn't try and dictate to them how they should fish though.
In reply to Post #1
Dropping the lead is most definitely not "the right thing to do". It's unnecessary and was little more than a ploy to sell more leads
If you have no snags and only a little weed then personally I would ban the unnecessary dropping of leads
Dropping the lead is most definitely not "the right thing to do". It's unnecessary and was little more than a ploy to sell more leads
If you have no snags and only a little weed then personally I would ban the unnecessary dropping of leads
In reply to Post #4
I think there is something in this and have had thoughts around this for a while...If they contained a steel ball bearing or enough metal - they could be 'Magnet fished' out from a boat and re sold....
I think there is something in this and have had thoughts around this for a while...If they contained a steel ball bearing or enough metal - they could be 'Magnet fished' out from a boat and re sold....
In reply to Post #6
I think this is where i'm at. I only allow good lads (and girls) on the that know what they are doing so i don't want to start dictating.
But sensible conversations around why they drop leads should be had.
I think this is where i'm at. I only allow good lads (and girls) on the that know what they are doing so i don't want to start dictating.
But sensible conversations around why they drop leads should be had.
In reply to Post #9
I think that's best
And hopefully the comments on here so far will give you the confidence to do that.
One thing you might want to focus your attention is dropping the lead on heli's.
I'm having trouble putting into words the reason why
Can someone help please?
I think that's best
And hopefully the comments on here so far will give you the confidence to do that.
One thing you might want to focus your attention is dropping the lead on heli's.
I'm having trouble putting into words the reason why
Can someone help please?
In reply to Post #10
There was a thread about dropping leads on Heli setups, it was about the top bead not moving up the line in the event of a crack off and the rig becoming a tether rig if it got caught up if a fish picked up the bait on the cracked off rig. Hope this makes sense
There was a thread about dropping leads on Heli setups, it was about the top bead not moving up the line in the event of a crack off and the rig becoming a tether rig if it got caught up if a fish picked up the bait on the cracked off rig. Hope this makes sense
In reply to Post #11
It does. It is due to the lead acting as an anchor point to therefore ais the top bead pulling off and the hooklink sliding free. No lead equals no anchor point, so the ball d is incredibly unlikely to come off, leaving the hooklink and however many feet of leader /line attached to the fish
It does. It is due to the lead acting as an anchor point to therefore ais the top bead pulling off and the hooklink sliding free. No lead equals no anchor point, so the ball d is incredibly unlikely to come off, leaving the hooklink and however many feet of leader /line attached to the fish
In reply to Post #11
The Korda no trace beads should serve as a solution to that problem though.
The Korda no trace beads should serve as a solution to that problem though.
In reply to Post #13
No they dont
No they dont