I've been playing around with pop up rigs for a long time and tank testing them.
I have to say the mechanics on a 360 and spinner (ronnie rig) seem to be the best. Although the withy pool rig is a very good one too.
Obviously it depends on the individual carps mouths too but I really can't see a more effective rig for getting more picks ups converted to takes...
Thoughts?
I have to say the mechanics on a 360 and spinner (ronnie rig) seem to be the best. Although the withy pool rig is a very good one too.
Obviously it depends on the individual carps mouths too but I really can't see a more effective rig for getting more picks ups converted to takes...
Thoughts?
In reply to Post #1
Maybe, maybe not. The question should be does it result in more landed fish rather than takes. As although I haven't used spinners much when I have played about I've dropped more than I've landed. The withy rig I used many years ago and it wasn't bad but nothing special. The multi rig however is my go to pop up rig and I've had a lot on it and haven't lost one for a few seasons now on it. For me tank testing isn't overly relevant as you can't replicate a fish feeding, and like you say they all feed differently anyway
Maybe, maybe not. The question should be does it result in more landed fish rather than takes. As although I haven't used spinners much when I have played about I've dropped more than I've landed. The withy rig I used many years ago and it wasn't bad but nothing special. The multi rig however is my go to pop up rig and I've had a lot on it and haven't lost one for a few seasons now on it. For me tank testing isn't overly relevant as you can't replicate a fish feeding, and like you say they all feed differently anyway
In reply to Post #1
Struggle to beat a classic stiff hinge rig IMO.
Struggle to beat a classic stiff hinge rig IMO.
In reply to Post #3
Agreed, also probably the most versatile with different material and height options.
Agreed, also probably the most versatile with different material and height options.
In reply to Post #3
Totally agree, still much prefer the HS rig
Totally agree, still much prefer the HS rig
I cannot get on with the spinner rig tried it a couple of times and lost more than landed!! Whereas stiff hinge rig lands far more than lost presents well and something the fish have difficulty in getting rid of it once hooked.
Michael
Michael
I never lost any fish with the Ronnie, you just need too many bits and bobs to tie it.
In reply to Post #1
Never lost a fish on spinner rig.
But I've found get bit more mouth damage on hard fighting fish/long battles.
Never lost a fish on spinner rig.
But I've found get bit more mouth damage on hard fighting fish/long battles.
In reply to Post #8
Very selfish to carry on using it then isn't it?
Very selfish to carry on using it then isn't it?
In reply to Post #9
Didn't say I was carrying on using it.
Didn't say I was carrying on using it.
In reply to Post #3
This
This
In reply to Post #11
+1
Stiff hinge all the way
+1
Stiff hinge all the way
In reply to Post #1
I don't think we can say there is such a thing as an ultimate pop up rig. There are better/worse pop up rigs for different applications/spots etc.
For a very low lying pop up on cleaner substrates the ronnie/spinner is hard to beat imo.
The hinge is a fantastic rig but I'd not fish that on a cleaner deck nowadays. I'd prefer the ronnie/spinner.
When it starts getting dirty the hinge is the one for me.
I don't think we can say there is such a thing as an ultimate pop up rig. There are better/worse pop up rigs for different applications/spots etc.
For a very low lying pop up on cleaner substrates the ronnie/spinner is hard to beat imo.
The hinge is a fantastic rig but I'd not fish that on a cleaner deck nowadays. I'd prefer the ronnie/spinner.
When it starts getting dirty the hinge is the one for me.
In reply to Post #13
In a carp world where the theme seems to be "do something different" and "think outside the box", throwing out something that 95% of other people are and takes minimal interlect to tie has just never appealed.
In a carp world where the theme seems to be "do something different" and "think outside the box", throwing out something that 95% of other people are and takes minimal interlect to tie has just never appealed.
In reply to Post #14
I definitely agree different is generally good, and I agree the rig takes minimal intellect to tie (although I'm not sure what relevance that has to anything). But I still think, in answer to the OP's question, that in the right situation the rig is hard to beat in terms of mechanics i.e. picks-ups/takes ratio.
What rig would you suggest is better?
I definitely agree different is generally good, and I agree the rig takes minimal intellect to tie (although I'm not sure what relevance that has to anything). But I still think, in answer to the OP's question, that in the right situation the rig is hard to beat in terms of mechanics i.e. picks-ups/takes ratio.
What rig would you suggest is better?