Hello,
I'm a big fan of Danny's longshank rig with souple hair (without the small split shot) but it can create some mouth damage... sometimes... due to the LS.
I also use the IQ D-rig, perfect during fight and the landing rate is ok but I have not the same fish rate.
I want to keep mono boom (no braid)...
What rig can I test for really difficult fish in french public water ? I'm interrested in your opinion compare to the LS rigs that are really efficient but can hurt the fish.
Best regards,
I'm a big fan of Danny's longshank rig with souple hair (without the small split shot) but it can create some mouth damage... sometimes... due to the LS.
I also use the IQ D-rig, perfect during fight and the landing rate is ok but I have not the same fish rate.
I want to keep mono boom (no braid)...
What rig can I test for really difficult fish in french public water ? I'm interrested in your opinion compare to the LS rigs that are really efficient but can hurt the fish.
Best regards,
In reply to Post #1
How about extending the shank of a Wide Gape with Shrink tubing or a kicker?
How about extending the shank of a Wide Gape with Shrink tubing or a kicker?
In reply to Post #1
I've used LS here and abroad for 30 years, only really deviated when using feeder. I used the original Fox LS, then the quality went crap with the arma (none closed eyes) then switched to Ace Razor.
Having said that I'm running low on size 4 which is what I normally use, especially in France. I'd book marked those Korda LS in my head for when I run out but to me they look extra long compared to other LS patterns...or is it just me? I haven't seen them in the flesh yet for comparison to others, just pics.
Have you thought about another slightly shorter LS and doing what Jeff says? My typical LS rigs are stiff coated braid or amnesia, standard hair,or rig ringed hair, but I do also dabble with long hairs.
You haven't said what size hook your using, ime, smaller size long shank do more damage than bigger ones.
I've used LS here and abroad for 30 years, only really deviated when using feeder. I used the original Fox LS, then the quality went crap with the arma (none closed eyes) then switched to Ace Razor.
Having said that I'm running low on size 4 which is what I normally use, especially in France. I'd book marked those Korda LS in my head for when I run out but to me they look extra long compared to other LS patterns...or is it just me? I haven't seen them in the flesh yet for comparison to others, just pics.
Have you thought about another slightly shorter LS and doing what Jeff says? My typical LS rigs are stiff coated braid or amnesia, standard hair,or rig ringed hair, but I do also dabble with long hairs.
You haven't said what size hook your using, ime, smaller size long shank do more damage than bigger ones.
In reply to Post #3
If you like the Ace razorpoints, the Bank Tackle (specialist range) are as far as I can tell, the same hook! I finally ran out of Aces last summer and changed over to Banks and they've been flawless.
I also favour them in a size 4 and never have any mouth damage. Tend to use them with big snowmen on multi-combi's, or 24mm bottom baits on basic semi stiff braided hair rigs with long hairs.
If you like the Ace razorpoints, the Bank Tackle (specialist range) are as far as I can tell, the same hook! I finally ran out of Aces last summer and changed over to Banks and they've been flawless.
I also favour them in a size 4 and never have any mouth damage. Tend to use them with big snowmen on multi-combi's, or 24mm bottom baits on basic semi stiff braided hair rigs with long hairs.
I use Ace and Carp Spirit (same) or ESP in Size T5 or T6 (small baits, approx. 15mm)
Soft and thin braid hair and 6" fluoro 0,4 or 0,5mm.
It work really well but I' m concern about mouth damage that sometime happen.
Soft and thin braid hair and 6" fluoro 0,4 or 0,5mm.
It work really well but I' m concern about mouth damage that sometime happen.
In reply to Post #5
I've been really impressed with the Nash claw wide gape since it was released. Holds are excellent but the points do turn easily after a fish so have some rigs ready made.
As mentioned below, easy to extend with some shrink tube even though I rarely find this is necessary.
Whatever people might say about Nash, I've found their hooks to be consistently excellent as the current pinpoints and previous fangs have proven over probably 10-15 years.
Imho much better than the ESP and fox stuff and only beaten by the drennan conti which is the best hook in the world ever ðŸ‘
I've been really impressed with the Nash claw wide gape since it was released. Holds are excellent but the points do turn easily after a fish so have some rigs ready made.
As mentioned below, easy to extend with some shrink tube even though I rarely find this is necessary.
Whatever people might say about Nash, I've found their hooks to be consistently excellent as the current pinpoints and previous fangs have proven over probably 10-15 years.
Imho much better than the ESP and fox stuff and only beaten by the drennan conti which is the best hook in the world ever ðŸ‘
In reply to Post #4
Thanks for the heads up re BT's. I had a look at them a while ago online but not for that purpose (Pike Fishing).
@Onslow, I bought some packets of Nash Claws in size , again thinking Pike fishing. Last year I bought some of the Flota Claw and was impressed if a tad heavy, same re the size 1.
When fishing in France using a 4 LS I tend to use double 15mm, snowman style or just straight bottom baits. Usually it's with a straight hair extension of the stiff braid so effectively the baits are inline. I might alter it with a run ringed hair ala blow back style but that's about it for me, bit boring given the newer multi component rigs, but if it works.....
Thanks for the heads up re BT's. I had a look at them a while ago online but not for that purpose (Pike Fishing).
@Onslow, I bought some packets of Nash Claws in size , again thinking Pike fishing. Last year I bought some of the Flota Claw and was impressed if a tad heavy, same re the size 1.
When fishing in France using a 4 LS I tend to use double 15mm, snowman style or just straight bottom baits. Usually it's with a straight hair extension of the stiff braid so effectively the baits are inline. I might alter it with a run ringed hair ala blow back style but that's about it for me, bit boring given the newer multi component rigs, but if it works.....
In reply to Post #7
Talking of BT, I got some of the specialist grippers in a 4.
A nice pattern, and really no point trying to sharpen them as they are well sharp enough as they come.
I also got some classic wide gapes in a 4, definitely need a good sharpen.
Talking of BT, I got some of the specialist grippers in a 4.
A nice pattern, and really no point trying to sharpen them as they are well sharp enough as they come.
I also got some classic wide gapes in a 4, definitely need a good sharpen.
BT classic series seems to be VMC hook, isn't it ? They have the "NT+ series" with the small glue blob below the eye.
VMC curv shank 7025 NT are the one I use in Iq D rig. Very sharp straight out of the packet.
VMC curv shank 7025 NT are the one I use in Iq D rig. Very sharp straight out of the packet.
In reply to Post #9
I found the classic range of BT hooks to be pretty blunt tbh. The BT Specialists are much better quality in my opinion.
Also worth a look for longshanks, Angling Iron are very good. I'd happily use any of Ace, BT, or AI, they're all very similar, if not the same.
I found the classic range of BT hooks to be pretty blunt tbh. The BT Specialists are much better quality in my opinion.
Also worth a look for longshanks, Angling Iron are very good. I'd happily use any of Ace, BT, or AI, they're all very similar, if not the same.
In reply to Post #4
I just checked the Long Shank Specialist in size 4 as they've 15% off, typically my luck, none in stock sie 4
Sure it can wait, not in a rush anyway.
I just checked the Long Shank Specialist in size 4 as they've 15% off, typically my luck, none in stock sie 4
Sure it can wait, not in a rush anyway.
In reply to Post #11
Ahh, that sucks. I've got loads lol. Did you check all the different quantities? Sometimes they'll show no stock of 10's, but 20's or 50's are in stock!
Ahh, that sucks. I've got loads lol. Did you check all the different quantities? Sometimes they'll show no stock of 10's, but 20's or 50's are in stock!
In reply to Post #11
All microbarbed options of size 4 longshanks in the specialist range are showing in stock, somewhere in the 4000-5000 range!
All microbarbed options of size 4 longshanks in the specialist range are showing in stock, somewhere in the 4000-5000 range!
What about a kamasan b175 lol
Propa old skool
Propa old skool
In reply to Post #13
I'm looking for barbless, should've said really..doh
My friend swore by the Kamasan b175, I couldn't get past the gold colour
I'm looking for barbless, should've said really..doh
My friend swore by the Kamasan b175, I couldn't get past the gold colour
In reply to Post #15
cor i used to use those bad boys, simple mono rig.
cor i used to use those bad boys, simple mono rig.
In reply to Post #16
I still remember the sound of that aggressive barb being popped out 
I still remember the sound of that aggressive barb being popped out
In reply to Post #15
Atomic posted an hour ago on FB that they now do their size 4 Haula's in barbless if that helps?
Atomic posted an hour ago on FB that they now do their size 4 Haula's in barbless if that helps?
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