Hi guys,
I may have a noddy question. Since a short while I use a multi rig style rig where I pull bait floss through the bait, that is connected to a micro ring swivel on the d-section. Then I blob the floss to create a stopper to prevent the bait going off the floss.
I noticed that that blob isn't so secure as a regular hair with a bait stopper in that loop.
Do you have a clever way of doing this in a better way? I thought about just tying a loop of thin braid on the micro ring swivel and sliding the bait on that loop on the bait, then pulling the micro ring swivel a bit in the bait to expose the loop of the braid en then putting a bait stopper in that loop and then sliding the bait against that stopper again.
Thanks!
I may have a noddy question. Since a short while I use a multi rig style rig where I pull bait floss through the bait, that is connected to a micro ring swivel on the d-section. Then I blob the floss to create a stopper to prevent the bait going off the floss.
I noticed that that blob isn't so secure as a regular hair with a bait stopper in that loop.
Do you have a clever way of doing this in a better way? I thought about just tying a loop of thin braid on the micro ring swivel and sliding the bait on that loop on the bait, then pulling the micro ring swivel a bit in the bait to expose the loop of the braid en then putting a bait stopper in that loop and then sliding the bait against that stopper again.
Thanks!
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It sounds a bit like the way I attach my pop ups.
I use 15mm pop ups. First I drill with a 7mm brad point drill and insert a piece of foam just so I know the pop up will stay boyant. Next I pierce the pop up and the foam with my baiting needle. I thread approx. 10cm of bait floss through the micro swivel or rig ring. I then only pull the bait floss through so there are two small loops of floss coming out on top of the bait and the two tag ends of floss still exiting the bait on the foam side - same side as swivel or ring. I then insert a bait stop in the two small loops on top of the bait and pull it tight with the two tag ends. No tying or blobbing needed. I just cut off the two tag ends on the underside of the bait. I have yet never lost a bait this way.
You can off course attach bottom baits this way too just without the foam.
I don't know if that makes any sense.
It sounds a bit like the way I attach my pop ups.
I use 15mm pop ups. First I drill with a 7mm brad point drill and insert a piece of foam just so I know the pop up will stay boyant. Next I pierce the pop up and the foam with my baiting needle. I thread approx. 10cm of bait floss through the micro swivel or rig ring. I then only pull the bait floss through so there are two small loops of floss coming out on top of the bait and the two tag ends of floss still exiting the bait on the foam side - same side as swivel or ring. I then insert a bait stop in the two small loops on top of the bait and pull it tight with the two tag ends. No tying or blobbing needed. I just cut off the two tag ends on the underside of the bait. I have yet never lost a bait this way.
You can off course attach bottom baits this way too just without the foam.
I don't know if that makes any sense.
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I showed my brother when he csme over ftom Australia, the blobbing method. He said sod that I'll do it the way I've always done it . If the baits are the same size it's quicker. Can't disagree.
I showed my brother when he csme over ftom Australia, the blobbing method. He said sod that I'll do it the way I've always done it . If the baits are the same size it's quicker. Can't disagree.
Thanks for your input guys, really helpful. I will try them both!
Use a bait screw and get rid of swivel and floss instead?
Possibly a bit rudimentary, but is the floss you're burning big enough to burn down and create a stop, and are you tapping it with the lighter?
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Get some floss caps, bit fiddly but work really well
Get some floss caps, bit fiddly but work really well
Bait screws are far easier.
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Sounds like the Baiting Needle you are using could be too thick.
Also, use Floss that is Waxed.
Sounds like the Baiting Needle you are using could be too thick.
Also, use Floss that is Waxed.
Bait screw, job done 
Hi everyone, thanks for all of your input! Really nice!
I have tried bait screws in the past but with softer baits, these also doesn't stay on they way I would like it. Sorry.
I indeed used long enough tag ends in the floss to create big enough blobs and then push them to flatten the blobs. I have some floss caps, so may give those a try again indeed.
Will experiment a bit, I have inspiration now!
I have tried bait screws in the past but with softer baits, these also doesn't stay on they way I would like it. Sorry.
I indeed used long enough tag ends in the floss to create big enough blobs and then push them to flatten the blobs. I have some floss caps, so may give those a try again indeed.
Will experiment a bit, I have inspiration now!
Tie the floss around the bait and not through it?
Even try using a boilie stop?
Even try using a boilie stop?
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I tried that indeed, but I fish a canal with cray fish and crabs and small fish, so I need something that is durable and secure. But thanks for your input!
I tried that indeed, but I fish a canal with cray fish and crabs and small fish, so I need something that is durable and secure. But thanks for your input!
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Ok, hard hookers. On a Ronnie or German rig with a bait screw?
That'll stop em!
Ok, hard hookers. On a Ronnie or German rig with a bait screw?
That'll stop em!
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Why not use some arma mesh or something and you can then floss through that and blob/tie it off?
Better still, use tigers and instead of floss use heavy duty coated braid. That'll last longer than any boilie on a canal
Why not use some arma mesh or something and you can then floss through that and blob/tie it off?
Better still, use tigers and instead of floss use heavy duty coated braid. That'll last longer than any boilie on a canal
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Floss caps. Just melt your floss into it and press with side of lighter.
I buy from Ali express in the bundles. £1 per 100. Buy 3 items for free delivery in the bundles so I buy yellow, clear and pink. Cost £3 and delivered within a week
Floss caps. Just melt your floss into it and press with side of lighter.
I buy from Ali express in the bundles. £1 per 100. Buy 3 items for free delivery in the bundles so I buy yellow, clear and pink. Cost £3 and delivered within a week
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I bought those too, but from Korda. Will look on AliExpress, good tip that. Never thought about that while I constantly buy from there.
I bought those too, but from Korda. Will look on AliExpress, good tip that. Never thought about that while I constantly buy from there.
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Floss caps 100 for £5 off Ebay if you want quicker
Floss caps 100 for £5 off Ebay if you want quicker
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There a pound on Ali express and come in a week.
There a pound on Ali express and come in a week.
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I ordered them yesterday! Lol
I ordered them yesterday! Lol
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Ali Express/Temu must have upped up there game, I've never received a order in under a month.
Ali Express/Temu must have upped up there game, I've never received a order in under a month.
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If you don't receive quickly, they just refund you. I've buy bits from temu but you have to spend to much to get the free delivery. Ali express, look for choice items and you only need £8 worth for free delivery. Or look for bundles and you only need 3 items for free delivery.
Ordered loads from them., yes a few items no good bit most, worth it.
If you don't receive quickly, they just refund you. I've buy bits from temu but you have to spend to much to get the free delivery. Ali express, look for choice items and you only need £8 worth for free delivery. Or look for bundles and you only need 3 items for free delivery.
Ordered loads from them., yes a few items no good bit most, worth it.
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Not on your own i don't like trust the blob. I tie a bait stop on and then blob that.
Not on your own i don't like trust the blob. I tie a bait stop on and then blob that.
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I agree, I use a splicing needle
I agree, I use a splicing needle
I stopped using floss to tie baits on, either by wrapping it around the bait. making loops and stops or blobbing it as I often found my bait missing.
When I did some experimentation, I found that after a while, the bait will swell and the knot will be forced to slip and eventully the knot becomes undone, as for blobbing, the bait swells and the "blob" gets pulled into the bait and usually stays on untill you wind in and then the floss pulls out of the bait.
I find bait screws far more secure or if you do tie your bait on, use marker elastic or hair bands which you can buy in various colours to match your bait. Using "elastic" it stretches as your bait swells.
When I did some experimentation, I found that after a while, the bait will swell and the knot will be forced to slip and eventully the knot becomes undone, as for blobbing, the bait swells and the "blob" gets pulled into the bait and usually stays on untill you wind in and then the floss pulls out of the bait.
I find bait screws far more secure or if you do tie your bait on, use marker elastic or hair bands which you can buy in various colours to match your bait. Using "elastic" it stretches as your bait swells.
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Been using floss and blobbing it for many years. Never lost a bait, you must be doing it wrong or using soft bait that break down easily.
Been using floss and blobbing it for many years. Never lost a bait, you must be doing it wrong or using soft bait that break down easily.
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Good morning
Complete newbie here and first post. Softer baits when flossing do tend to be a little, how shall we say, insecure. I often found that by tying a double slip knot around these baits to be far better than relying on a single. It may look a little like a Hot Cross bun when finished, but i never had any come back with the baits missing.
Good morning
Complete newbie here and first post. Softer baits when flossing do tend to be a little, how shall we say, insecure. I often found that by tying a double slip knot around these baits to be far better than relying on a single. It may look a little like a Hot Cross bun when finished, but i never had any come back with the baits missing.
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Blobbing is fine unless the water if full of nuisance silvers.
Another issue can be diving ducks or coots, they can pick you up and if they drop the bait you'd never know if the rig will reset and still have a bait on...
If you use a boilie stop and tie a few overhand knots over it, and then blob, the boilie will be rock solid.
Blobbing is fine unless the water if full of nuisance silvers.
Another issue can be diving ducks or coots, they can pick you up and if they drop the bait you'd never know if the rig will reset and still have a bait on...
If you use a boilie stop and tie a few overhand knots over it, and then blob, the boilie will be rock solid.
Tying them on is a bit of an art, but when you get the hang of it baits never come off nomatter how soft or hard the bait is. Never tried blobbing them on, not sure I'd trust it tbh
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Same. I fish a big, shallow water where you're fishing at distance and regularly getting picked up by birds and I've never lost a blobbed on bait. Not once
Same. I fish a big, shallow water where you're fishing at distance and regularly getting picked up by birds and I've never lost a blobbed on bait. Not once
I've just bought some of the Korda Floss Stops and they remind me of something. When I fished spam years ago (probably decades) I cut a disc of plastic from something like a old store card or margerine/ice cream tub, pierce a hole in the centre, and mount it after the bait securing with a hair stop/twig whatever.
Seems to me it's convenient having them pre made, but nothing new, could equally be used with blobbing.
Seems to me it's convenient having them pre made, but nothing new, could equally be used with blobbing.
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If you have crays and crabs, use 25lb flouro carbon to replace the floss and blob it.
If you have crays and crabs, use 25lb flouro carbon to replace the floss and blob it.
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Always use a v fine drill / needle to mount the bait if blobbing floss . . .pinch the micro ring swivel when pulling the doubled up floss through (easier with a fine latch gate / splicing needle IMO) and pull the bait up onto the swivel barrel . . .make sure you've got enough excess floss to create a 'decent' blob . . .flatten with the edge of your lighter or thumb. TBF I would not use floss if fishing softer baits / bottom baits out of the bag. . .on the same basis I wouldn't use a bait screw either - better to use a standard hair with a stop and a small float stop / split shot to the underside to keep the softer bait from moving about . . .
Always use a v fine drill / needle to mount the bait if blobbing floss . . .pinch the micro ring swivel when pulling the doubled up floss through (easier with a fine latch gate / splicing needle IMO) and pull the bait up onto the swivel barrel . . .make sure you've got enough excess floss to create a 'decent' blob . . .flatten with the edge of your lighter or thumb. TBF I would not use floss if fishing softer baits / bottom baits out of the bag. . .on the same basis I wouldn't use a bait screw either - better to use a standard hair with a stop and a small float stop / split shot to the underside to keep the softer bait from moving about . . .
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This was exactly the reason why it wasn't working for me. I now use a strong braid loop in which I put a boilie stopper and this seems to work....
This was exactly the reason why it wasn't working for me. I now use a strong braid loop in which I put a boilie stopper and this seems to work....
I suppose it could be an issue with really soft baits but iv never had a bait come off from the floss and blob method .
I generally use shop bought wafters .
I don't even “blob” any more , I just let the floss burn down
I generally use shop bought wafters .
I don't even “blob” any more , I just let the floss burn down
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I double the length of floss and double it over to create a loop, then pull the loop through the hookbait, making sure the tag ends are still visible through the bottom of bait next to the micro swivel. Then put a bait stop in and pull down the tag ends to secure the bait stop and then blob the tag ends on the underside next to the swivel.
To be honest i rarely use this unless I know I'm casting at range or fishing a single. i to very rarely loose a bait that is blobbed on the traditional way.
I double the length of floss and double it over to create a loop, then pull the loop through the hookbait, making sure the tag ends are still visible through the bottom of bait next to the micro swivel. Then put a bait stop in and pull down the tag ends to secure the bait stop and then blob the tag ends on the underside next to the swivel.
To be honest i rarely use this unless I know I'm casting at range or fishing a single. i to very rarely loose a bait that is blobbed on the traditional way.
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