I'm off to France soon and the lake contains crays.
I'll have hardened and plastic baits and wraps etc, my question is about attaching them.
Is a bait screw into plastic and hardened baits sufficient to prevent them removing the bait or do I need to look to tie them on with braid?
I'm wanting to start making some rigs and not sure whether to use a ring or a screw.
I'll have hardened and plastic baits and wraps etc, my question is about attaching them.
Is a bait screw into plastic and hardened baits sufficient to prevent them removing the bait or do I need to look to tie them on with braid?
I'm wanting to start making some rigs and not sure whether to use a ring or a screw.
In reply to Post #1
I've not tried screwed on baits, I always attached direct to the hair or rig ringed hair ensuring the stop was through the plastic wrap. If you get big crays unless your using really big baits they'll just crush the bait, in that scenario I can't see bait screws working as well as a stop.
I've not tried screwed on baits, I always attached direct to the hair or rig ringed hair ensuring the stop was through the plastic wrap. If you get big crays unless your using really big baits they'll just crush the bait, in that scenario I can't see bait screws working as well as a stop.
In reply to Post #1
What about using hardened hook baits but either tights or fox's arma mesh or the Nash version of it
What about using hardened hook baits but either tights or fox's arma mesh or the Nash version of it
In reply to Post #1
Rig dependant, I'd use either a bait screw to attach a bait or those long v shaped stops if you're using a hair. Whatever, you need to wrap baits in either Fox Armamesh or tights or both if they're really bad. They do like a bit of plastic though, so leaders are better than rig tubing. I've had plastic baits all chewed up with them.
Rig dependant, I'd use either a bait screw to attach a bait or those long v shaped stops if you're using a hair. Whatever, you need to wrap baits in either Fox Armamesh or tights or both if they're really bad. They do like a bit of plastic though, so leaders are better than rig tubing. I've had plastic baits all chewed up with them.
I can't find it right now but a while back, Scott Lloyd shared a way of attaching baits using doubled over bristle filament in place of floss when using a micro-ring swivel. Someone may be able to dig it out but seemed more resilient to crays. Think it was being used in conjunction with plastic baits too
In reply to Post #5
If I'm right it should be from when he caught the croc as there's lots of crays in that lake he mentioned them a lot.
If I'm right it should be from when he caught the croc as there's lots of crays in that lake he mentioned them a lot.
For a simple hair rig I cut off a piece of shrink wrap (Korda) about 6mm wide thread the hair through one of the holes then the boilie/bait add the stopper pull over the heat shrink and heat down covering the hair stop 👍
Armamesh type only really works with smaller crays and poisson chat, bigger crays will just mush the bait to a pulp in the mesh.
If I was pushed I'd use the corkball method, linked below, but even using that the buggers will screw the presentation up while trying to get it.
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If I was pushed I'd use the corkball method, linked below, but even using that the buggers will screw the presentation up while trying to get it.
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Cheers lads, some good advice
In reply to Post #9
Def use a stiff D rig / German and screw the bait on - the less components the better IMO and soft braided hairs will more likely get picked / tangled up on inspection. Also have you considered taking a block of paste and a selection of these - Liquirigs
Might save a load of agg?
Def use a stiff D rig / German and screw the bait on - the less components the better IMO and soft braided hairs will more likely get picked / tangled up on inspection. Also have you considered taking a block of paste and a selection of these - Liquirigs
Might save a load of agg?
Just back fro France myself and the crays in the lake i fished were huge and numerous. Nothing held up other than plastics on metal bait screws and Crayproofbaits dumbells and fake tigers.
In reply to Post #12
That's about right
That's about right
In reply to Post #11
These are epoxy, are they any better than wooden balls?
£26 for 6 delivered
And how do you attach the ones without bait screws already in them?
These are epoxy, are they any better than wooden balls?
£26 for 6 delivered
And how do you attach the ones without bait screws already in them?
In reply to Post #14
They all have swivels attached I think. And probably no better than wooden balls apart from colour etc, just know they do work, but so do wooden balls. Confidence thing I guess. And yeah not cheap but should last!
They all have swivels attached I think. And probably no better than wooden balls apart from colour etc, just know they do work, but so do wooden balls. Confidence thing I guess. And yeah not cheap but should last!
In reply to Post #12
That's exactly what I use on my syndicate, never had a problem . I use the esp plastic boiles .
That's exactly what I use on my syndicate, never had a problem . I use the esp plastic boiles .
I've always put the bait on with metal bait screws and they hold ok, crays just whittle the baits down and I've often wound in something that resembles a dry mixer but the bait screw has held - agree with belch, a german rig is good, no hair for the buggers to wrap round everything.
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