Hi all,

Are there any active members on here that are using soft/supple braid for their rigs, casting anywhere between 8 and 19 wraps? (Excluding solid bags)

If there is, how are you preventing tangles from occurring?

I plan to begin using it for the next few sessions, starting at 7inches long, with a PVA foam nugget on the hook and i'm just curious as to what techniques people employ to keep it tangle free from cast to lake bed.

The rig in question has been inspired from the below article, I think its going to help negate some of the issue I've had where i've been getting done recently, know this due to a bite indicator on my lead set up.

https://gardnertackle.co.uk/2014/12/carp-fishing-perfecting-rig-nick-burrage/

Thanks,
SnapSh0ts

In reply to Post #1
A little PVA stick will help as the hook will be buried in it. Make sure you hit the clip or stop the line just above the water. Or just use a solid bag.

In reply to Post #2
Thanks for the tips, I know Solid bags solves the threat of tangles but i would bet a very high portion of anglers on my club lake use this approach and im trying to stay away from what fish regularly see

In reply to Post #3
PVA boomsmight be worth a shout, although very pricey for how many chucks you'll get. I looked into doing a very similar things last year and even pondered the idea of pva taping a stick to the braid 😂 As said, a mesh bag will probably be a good option. Doesn't even need any free offerings in if you think about it.

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In reply to Post #4
i literally had the stick idea as well this morning but you cant guarantee which side the hook link will land.

In reply to Post #6
I've been fishing a really weedy area this year & have had to use longer hooklinks to ensure my baits are fishing properly (I want them to be visible above the layer of weed over the bottom). This has lead to more tangles again so have been dealing with similar problems.

advantage with a stick is that you can pull back the lead after it has landed to straighten the hooklink, however I like to fish multi-rig style & the hook doesn't really allow for fishing sticks & bags - fishing german rig has helped a little there.

I have found a couple of things have helped - larger hookbaits (brazil nuts instead of tigers), ensuring there is nothing else on the hooklink (putty nearly always tangles) & following the lead / hookbait through the air on the cast, allowing the lead to sink on a tight line etc. I did find that using a stone weight helped with tangles compared to more conventional shaped leads - not sure if it is aerodynamics or the speed it sinks at but I deffo get less with that. I don't trust PVA foam nuggets after watching a hookbait stay popped up off my lead for hours with a tiny bit of foam stuck on the hook after casting across to a far margin years ago. I saw the foam hit the surface & would have assumed that it was all fishing ok but when I managed to look down on it, I could see fish feeding hard on the bottom with my bait suspended 9 inches above it.

still get the odd tangle but am now recasting more regularly just in case. good luck - if you find something that works then please let me know

I use a small pva stick of bread for situations like this, if you don't pack it too tight it will lift the rig up slowly like a nugget then when the bag bursts the rig will drop and the bread lands around the rig. I slide it down the rig over the hook point. Have a play with it it works really well 👍 or the other method I use is to make a triangle stringer and thread that down the link, it locks the boilie on the hair in place and never ever tangles. 2 great setups that I've used a lot over the years.

Usually I use this method Video Link for pellets and dryer mix. If the mix is wet I bore a hole thru the stick with Korda chod tool - Video Link. And adding some liquid in the hole before casting. Just stop the line before it landing in water.

In reply to Post #1
Large Hook baits help / stringer / stick
something which Darrell P has spoken about often when using simple braid (which he "was" a massive advocate of in korda PR)

hitting the clips also ensures separation

thank you all for the advice.

Did a session last night and reeled in this morning with no tangles so it seemed to work well, making sure to hit the clip i think did the trick

I think braid hook links may become popular again completely different to the fashionable rigs at the moment 😉.

In reply to Post #1
I used to fish helicoters at distance using braid hooklinks, I tied the hooklink to the tubing with pva tape with a foam nugget on the hook. The hooklink being separated fom the tubing never bothered me, sometimes I'd tie a small stringer to the tubing too.

Threading foam nuggets up the hooklink helps if distance isn't a priority.

Use a stringer - how many people do these days?

In reply to Post #15
People who are old farts like me, still using braid hooklinks.😀

In reply to Post #15
It's gaining traction, the next big thing

In reply to Post #17
Don't tell fairbrass, the price of braid will go through the roof.

Didn't someone make a gel or glue for stiffening braided hooklengths and then when in water it dissolved?

In reply to Post #19
Wasn't it Kryston...hmm

@mark

In reply to Post #20
Yup well done 👍

No tangle

https://www.kryston.com/en/portfolio/no-tangle/

In reply to Post #20
I used to use it on the original multi strand hooklink, found it a bit of a pita, so much so like most people i stopped using both. Not saying it won't do the job. Just easier ways.

In reply to Post #22
I never used it but always thought it could be useful

In reply to Post #23
Never remember having many tangles back in the day using heli setups. Most tangles were when you reeled back in if the hook length coiled up as it landed, letting it swing back stopped most of those.
Just watch the rig as you cast, you'll see if it does tangle on the cast.

Not at distance as such but stripped back coated braid or fully uncoated hooklinks are a method I use regularly on my silty syndicate water,as most others have said a pva mesh bag is the way I do it-I will sometime fill with floaters so you get the gentle drop of the hook but also the weight required to help stop tangles
I generally use this on a lead clip setup

Braid Is all I really use albeit most of the time stiff coated with the last few inches stripped back. Can't get my head around a mono or fluoro hooklink being anywhere near as effective at turning.

In reply to Post #1
I use a longer section of braid (than most) with an Albright knot to 20lb flouro.
You can easily get a 3” braid single strand (not multi) and 4” boom section that has rarely (if ever) tangled. I use them at probably 2” braid with a shot over the knot for bottom bait and wafter fishing. I use small hooks (8s and 10s) and small cut down hookbaits.

Braid is brilliant (supernatural for me) but without a stick or a bag I think the 10% chance of a tangle is just too high.

In reply to Post #1
just as a slight change to the subject
can anyone recommend a braid which is a bit thicker in diameter without needing to use a really high breaking strain.
Experimenting with using multi's and supple braids

In reply to Post #1
Gardner do PVA tubing to thread your soft hooklink in, I have some but not used it yet so can't say how it performs.

Daz

In reply to Post #28
Have a look at the Nash Armourlink

In reply to Post #28
Nash armourlink or Korda dark matter are thicker than normal

Inline lead with 18" rig tubing . Rig boom over swivel to 9" of supple braid. Bait attached to a line aligned hook with small piece of tubing on the bend. Bigger the bait the better. Feather the cast down. I've been using this setup since the early 90's and it rarely tangles.

In reply to Post #1
I used fish the same basic rig as Nexus6,
Did quite well with 8-12" of Merlin, size 4 hook and a stringer or a short stick with PVA nugget inside..not on the hook / hooklink

In reply to Post #32
This is my go to set up as well although I have no problems with 10mm hookbaits as long as i'm using foam / stringer / bag. Served me well for many years!