Just wondering if anyone's tried this? Any disadvantages aside from more metal? I find splicing a pain in the tail & just considering an alternative to knit one pearl one. Best splicing tool rec's also welcome.
In reply to Post #1
I assume you don't use the correct needle or tool to splice...
You can knot it to a swivel for one side, the other side could be connect to the mainline through a needle knot.
https://www.carpology.net/article/rigs/how-to-tie-the-needle-knot/
I assume you don't use the correct needle or tool to splice...
You can knot it to a swivel for one side, the other side could be connect to the mainline through a needle knot.
https://www.carpology.net/article/rigs/how-to-tie-the-needle-knot/
In reply to Post #2
Yep - use splicing tools but end up snapping the needles after doing a few, I'm not nimble fingered but a lot of the needles are pretty weak. Thought krimping would be ‘flusher / neater maybe safer than using a knot?
Yep - use splicing tools but end up snapping the needles after doing a few, I'm not nimble fingered but a lot of the needles are pretty weak. Thought krimping would be ‘flusher / neater maybe safer than using a knot?
In reply to Post #3
Fox easy splice needle or similar almost certain you can't crimp leadcore
Fox easy splice needle or similar almost certain you can't crimp leadcore
In reply to Post #1
Sounds like a recipe for disaster Tbh. I'm sure you will have problems with crimps failing pretty easily on leadcore. Really you shouldn't be breaking splicing needles if your technique is good
Sounds like a recipe for disaster Tbh. I'm sure you will have problems with crimps failing pretty easily on leadcore. Really you shouldn't be breaking splicing needles if your technique is good
Getting the lead core through a crimp would be a nightmare. Just get a fox easy splice needle, they make splicing a piece of cake
In reply to Post #6
Cheers - not tried Fox - yep ‘ham fisted' with splicing hence the Q.
@Yannek - thx 4 the link - looks like an Albright variation within the braid 👍.
@IP - Thinking of pike trace krimps - just bigger than diameter of the leadcore - if it's fine for flouro / trace wire - would the braid coating be more liable to slip than fc or wire?
Cheers - not tried Fox - yep ‘ham fisted' with splicing hence the Q.
@Yannek - thx 4 the link - looks like an Albright variation within the braid 👍.
@IP - Thinking of pike trace krimps - just bigger than diameter of the leadcore - if it's fine for flouro / trace wire - would the braid coating be more liable to slip than fc or wire?
In reply to Post #7
I reckon it would slip due to being a lot more pliable than wire or flouro, but the only way you will know is try, but I have a feeling the reason nobody crimps it is because it doesn't work
I reckon it would slip due to being a lot more pliable than wire or flouro, but the only way you will know is try, but I have a feeling the reason nobody crimps it is because it doesn't work
Lead core would slip on a crimp.
The Esp splicing needles are the best ive used but do take some getting use too.
The Esp splicing needles are the best ive used but do take some getting use too.
In reply to Post #1
Just Google the Keith moor knot
It's a knotless knot for leadcore
As long as you can push a splicing needle into the core and pull it back out again without breaking the needle you can do it.
https://fb.watch/mrc_3xYexD/
19th April 2020 angling direct farlows mega store page if you can't copy and paste the the above
Just Google the Keith moor knot
It's a knotless knot for leadcore
As long as you can push a splicing needle into the core and pull it back out again without breaking the needle you can do it.
https://fb.watch/mrc_3xYexD/
19th April 2020 angling direct farlows mega store page if you can't copy and paste the the above
In reply to Post #10
Will do thx - just looking for a less fiddly (but safe) method so I can do ten leaders at once.
Will do thx - just looking for a less fiddly (but safe) method so I can do ten leaders at once.
Mate just practice splicing. It's the best neatest way and once you've got the hang of it it's easiest too.
I find twisting the needle as I pull it through makes it easier. Also ensure you're not tightening the splice as you g. Work it with your fingers to keep it fat.
I find twisting the needle as I pull it through makes it easier. Also ensure you're not tightening the splice as you g. Work it with your fingers to keep it fat.
In reply to Post #12
Cheers - the Fox needle looks 👍 I'm just prepping leaders for Autumn so was looking to save time & agg.
Cheers - the Fox needle looks 👍 I'm just prepping leaders for Autumn so was looking to save time & agg.
In reply to Post #12
Exactly this.
I find bunching up the outer as you pull through the inner helps a lot. If that makes sense.
Exactly this.
I find bunching up the outer as you pull through the inner helps a lot. If that makes sense.
In reply to Post #1
Another vote for the Fox splicing needle , it's a doddle or like has been said the needle knot is a very easy and neat way of attaching it to your mainline
Another vote for the Fox splicing needle , it's a doddle or like has been said the needle knot is a very easy and neat way of attaching it to your mainline
In reply to Post #1
ESP needle and make sure you push the material right up to the needle handle where it is wider and rotate the needle, this opens the hole making it easier to pull the tag end back through, pulling tool from both ends to tighten it all up.
ESP needle and make sure you push the material right up to the needle handle where it is wider and rotate the needle, this opens the hole making it easier to pull the tag end back through, pulling tool from both ends to tighten it all up.
In reply to Post #11
Remove the leadcore you need.
I use a large sewing needle or similar for this.
Try teasing and separating the end of the leadcore weave for a couple of inches, so that it isn't in the shape of a round weave, just straight individual fibres leading up to the round weave. I hope that makes sense!
Put into splicing needle, and bunch up the leadcore as you pass over the separate straight individual fibres, you should find that it is less bulky, and more willing to tease/roll the splice to fully go up to where you what it to end up, before tightening it down.
Remove the leadcore you need.
I use a large sewing needle or similar for this.
Try teasing and separating the end of the leadcore weave for a couple of inches, so that it isn't in the shape of a round weave, just straight individual fibres leading up to the round weave. I hope that makes sense!
Put into splicing needle, and bunch up the leadcore as you pass over the separate straight individual fibres, you should find that it is less bulky, and more willing to tease/roll the splice to fully go up to where you what it to end up, before tightening it down.
In reply to Post #17
Yep - makes perfect sense - thx! Have got hold of 2 Fox Easy Splice needles & I agree, the diamond design instead of the ‘latch' is easier / faster. Shame JAG don't do a ‘bomb proof' stainless steel set of needles, the Fox needle is still pretty flimsy, understandable for the price tho.
Yep - makes perfect sense - thx! Have got hold of 2 Fox Easy Splice needles & I agree, the diamond design instead of the ‘latch' is easier / faster. Shame JAG don't do a ‘bomb proof' stainless steel set of needles, the Fox needle is still pretty flimsy, understandable for the price tho.
In reply to Post #18
If I can manage with my sausage fingers and blind eyes (hello ladies) anyone can, practice makes and all that + splicing means you have good old fashioned physics on your side
If I can manage with my sausage fingers and blind eyes (hello ladies) anyone can, practice makes and all that + splicing means you have good old fashioned physics on your side
In reply to Post #16
Yep!
Yep!
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