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Am I missing something? (19 posts / 3,139 views)
frothey frothey
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Post #1 11 Mar 2023 10:58
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Why not just use a Pallatrax (or whoever) stone if you want to try and make something look like a stone, with the added advantage of it also having no lead in it!

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Spike Spike
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Post #2 11 Mar 2023 12:05
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Think it's just the density of stones. 4oz would be half a house brick
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #3 11 Mar 2023 12:27
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In reply to Post #1
I think someone is giving carp way too much credit
frothey frothey
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Post #4 11 Mar 2023 12:42
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In reply to Post #2
4oz Stone is about the same size as a “naked” fox method feeder.

I reckon he's just trying to find a market for a knackered lead mould 😂
Spike Spike
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Post #5 11 Mar 2023 12:45
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In reply to Post #4
Lol that's more than likely true
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #6 11 Mar 2023 13:29
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In reply to Post #4
Blooming things!
Not particularly good for distance casting. I only use them when I can underarm or lower the bait in.
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #7 12 Mar 2023 17:01
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In reply to Post #2
Agree ,I've got a load of them 4oz UFO cement weights , they are huge
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #8 12 Mar 2023 18:58
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In reply to Post #3
Agreed, think of the all the different shapes, sizes and colours leads come in, carp aren't that clever.
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #9 12 Mar 2023 20:15
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In reply to Post #8
Within the trend for dropping leads, ur probably fishing next to a lead anyway
Baitman Baitman
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Post #10 13 Mar 2023 01:18
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frothey frothey
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Post #11 13 Mar 2023 07:33
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Yet “everyone” buys camo leads?

Never heard of those cement leads, that sounds even weirder - trying to make a stone, rather than just using one 🤔 Do they do a range of different renders?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #12 13 Mar 2023 13:02
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In reply to Post #11
Only because that's what they sell.
I've always thought the reason for coating leads was to stop them getting roughed up on gravel, that's the reason I went on them, they used to come in single colours, then after a while they started to mix colours to 'camo' them up

@clobersaurus.
Especially when people fish tight to well known features.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #13 13 Mar 2023 17:33
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Years ago I bought a load of 2oz leads and made them up to 3oz with multifinish/plaster scraps, they really did look like pieces of gravel and stone when on the lakebed.

I think someone on here queried about the possibility of having sharp edges, and possibly scratching carp, so I 'binned' them.

That's a proper render job.

As Tinhead says, I'm sure leads were originally coated to prevent scratching or damaging the lead, camouflage was just an incidental.
Even with coating, I've had the coating split on impact with the lakebed. They can sometimes be 'repaired' with a lighter melting and rejoining the plastic, but if its too bad I just take the plastic coating off, and either use them uncoated or repaint and use a tough varnish.

frothey frothey
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Post #14 13 Mar 2023 20:26
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In reply to Post #13
Using coated leads on “proper” gravel pits back in the day was pointless as they were chewed up worse than the lead was. As the years have gone by and the bars collapsed/silted over they've got less severe. We used to cars 4oz out and get 2 1/2 back!
mark1009
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Post #15 13 Mar 2023 21:08
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In reply to Post #14
Some coated leads seem to be more resilient to gravel bars than others. I've had some split on the first cast. Korda and fox ones seem a bit better than some I've bought from sellers on the Internet. To be honest I'm not sure it really matters. Possibly in gin clear water on a shiny gravel bar. Most of the time the lead is at least partly obscured by the bottom of the lake.
mactabilis mactabilis
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Post #16 14 Mar 2023 14:28
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In reply to Post #11
I wouldn't buy anything other than a standard lead with a coating to match the bottom I am fishing, and what I am about to say still hasn't managed to get me to change my mind, its to engrained into my way of thinking.

There is a local guy to who makes leads, I was off to France with the other half and some of our friends. I done a bulk order for the whole group including some neon pink coated backleads. When I picked them up, the other half was with me, and asked the guy if he could make her normal fishing leads in neon pink. He had some made, which just needed to be coated, so he whipped a handful up there and then on the spot. She walked out chuffed to bits with her new leads. No matter how much I tried to convince her that she should use standard leads, she wouldn't be swayed.

Through the course of the week she caught as many carp as the rest of us, including 2x50+ and 1x60+ The 60+ was the biggest fish caught that week and happened to be the lake record, which stood for a year until it came out at 70lb+.

We are off to France later this year and she has been banging on at me to get some more Pink Leads made up for her. Even though I know it doesn't make a difference and she has proven it to me, I am still trying to talk her out of it... weird isn't it.
Sgfc Sgfc
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aka The Combover Kid Post #17 14 Mar 2023 15:13
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In reply to Post #16
It's interesting isn't it - we spend so much time and effort into concealing our rigs only to terminate it in a completely alien 15mm fluro ball.

I seem to remember in one of his videos, Terry Hearn using brightly coloured leads when he was fishing up to boats so he could see his lead on the cast.
EDIT - could have been an article... can't quite remember.. was a zip lead mind..
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #18 14 Mar 2023 19:24
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In reply to Post #16
I had some made up with white coating so I could see them against the overhanging trees on the islands and far bank. Never stopped me catching.
mactabilis mactabilis
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Post #19 14 Mar 2023 19:33
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In reply to Post #18
I literally saw the proof with my own eyes, fishing a double swim with her, netting the fish and helping her out all week. Somehow though I still struggle to accept it, I guess it's years of conditioning on my part.

Notably she also caught using the same leads on UK waters too. Which rules out my theory of it being a one off anomaly.
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