Hi, what would be the better rig using a balanced boilie ?
In reply to Post #1
German for me, my goto rig.
German for me, my goto rig.
In reply to Post #1
They all work mate. Slip D , German rig and so on. Aslong as you set them up correct they'll all catch you fish it's just a confidence thing.
They all work mate. Slip D , German rig and so on. Aslong as you set them up correct they'll all catch you fish it's just a confidence thing.
In reply to Post #1
agree with tranter mate , they all work its just down to confidence . start with the german rig for simplicity and see how you go. have had many good result on the german with semi stiff braid and a big mugga hook and a little mesh bag. so simple but very effective.
agree with tranter mate , they all work its just down to confidence . start with the german rig for simplicity and see how you go. have had many good result on the german with semi stiff braid and a big mugga hook and a little mesh bag. so simple but very effective.
German rig for me,esp tungsten semi stiff and a Mugga hook.I love how quick and easy to tie it is and it nails them
In reply to Post #5
Is the German rig just bottom baits and wafters?
Does anyone fish pop ups on them and if so how do you counter balance them.
Is the German rig just bottom baits and wafters?
Does anyone fish pop ups on them and if so how do you counter balance them.
In reply to Post #6
That's basically a Ronnie rig.
That's basically a Ronnie rig.
In reply to Post #5
Absolutely,
One of my favourite rigs, super simple - and balances perfectly with a mugga + wafter, or slow-sinking plastic corn.
Absolutely,
One of my favourite rigs, super simple - and balances perfectly with a mugga + wafter, or slow-sinking plastic corn.
In reply to Post #7
Nothing like a ronnie
A German rig is just a hook knotless knotted to fluro or a semi stiff braid with a micro swivel and hookbead on the shank
Re pop ups, it wont work as it is but put a break in the hooklink like you might with a multi rig and it will work fine. Putty with a bit of wire to hold it on or a split shot to balance it
Nothing like a ronnie
A German rig is just a hook knotless knotted to fluro or a semi stiff braid with a micro swivel and hookbead on the shank
Re pop ups, it wont work as it is but put a break in the hooklink like you might with a multi rig and it will work fine. Putty with a bit of wire to hold it on or a split shot to balance it
In reply to Post #9
So isn't that a Ronnie rig with just a quick change swivel added in ? Put a break in the material and a sinker of some sort it's like a Ronnie.
I wouldn't use it like that personally but it's very similar but not what it was designed for.
So isn't that a Ronnie rig with just a quick change swivel added in ? Put a break in the material and a sinker of some sort it's like a Ronnie.
I wouldn't use it like that personally but it's very similar but not what it was designed for.
In reply to Post #9
I use amnesia for my boom on ronnie rigs, so unlike a coated braid it's not an easy tweak to strip a bit out to make a hinge.
Do any of you still add a tungsten counter weight on your German rig to aid hooking/prevent ejection.
I have used ronnies with the tungsten on for bottom baits and its done OK, but fancy trying a German to see if it will work any better.
I use amnesia for my boom on ronnie rigs, so unlike a coated braid it's not an easy tweak to strip a bit out to make a hinge.
Do any of you still add a tungsten counter weight on your German rig to aid hooking/prevent ejection.
I have used ronnies with the tungsten on for bottom baits and its done OK, but fancy trying a German to see if it will work any better.
In reply to Post #11
Yes mate i think a big bit of tungsten putty around 1inch up from the hook eye is key to getting them nailed.
i use esp semi stiff , size 4 mugga and always a wafter bait with it , small mesh bag of micro pellet or crumb.
Yes mate i think a big bit of tungsten putty around 1inch up from the hook eye is key to getting them nailed.
i use esp semi stiff , size 4 mugga and always a wafter bait with it , small mesh bag of micro pellet or crumb.
In reply to Post #12
Likewise, I use a shot one inch from the hook, size 4 Mugga and a wafter. Can't remember the last time I lost a fish, always nailed. 👍
Likewise, I use a shot one inch from the hook, size 4 Mugga and a wafter. Can't remember the last time I lost a fish, always nailed. 👍
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How big a shot do you use?
How big a shot do you use?
In reply to Post #1
I tend to use a D-rig for pop-ups and snowman baits.
If using a pop-up on coated braid, match anglers olivettes make a perfect counterbalance, and don't come with carp tax. If you have a short hooklink section as on a hinged stiff rig, then balance it to the mini swivel with putty.
To be honest, any rig can be balanced for wafters, pop-ups, but much of it is rig fashion.
This is my personal view, but a Ronnie rig works best with a pop-up whereas a D-rig is more suitable for bottom baits, balanced baits and pop-ups.
You could just as easily use a blowback rig with a ring on the shank, or even just a standard sliding ring, (which I was doing years before it was renamed German rig, and was called the Sliding rig in Rob Maylins book Carp back around 1990).
I tend to use a D-rig for pop-ups and snowman baits.
If using a pop-up on coated braid, match anglers olivettes make a perfect counterbalance, and don't come with carp tax. If you have a short hooklink section as on a hinged stiff rig, then balance it to the mini swivel with putty.
To be honest, any rig can be balanced for wafters, pop-ups, but much of it is rig fashion.
This is my personal view, but a Ronnie rig works best with a pop-up whereas a D-rig is more suitable for bottom baits, balanced baits and pop-ups.
You could just as easily use a blowback rig with a ring on the shank, or even just a standard sliding ring, (which I was doing years before it was renamed German rig, and was called the Sliding rig in Rob Maylins book Carp back around 1990).
In reply to Post #14
I use a BB shot.
I use a BB shot.
In reply to Post #16
Thanks.
Thanks.
In reply to Post #10
Sort of but it works completely differently as there is no hinge point. A turbo german (can barely bear to write the stupid name) is more similar to a ronne
Tungsten wise, yes, i used a big blob an inch and a half from the hook. Decent rig
Sort of but it works completely differently as there is no hinge point. A turbo german (can barely bear to write the stupid name) is more similar to a ronne
Tungsten wise, yes, i used a big blob an inch and a half from the hook. Decent rig
Anybody used the German rig quite long say 12 inches ? I want a rig to fish snowman hookbaits over a silty bottom on lead clips, 15mm bottom bait and a 10mm pop up, this looks good and obviously very simple to tie, anybody used it with a snowman ? Just worried about the separation between the hook and bait.
In reply to Post #19
Hi Pal,
Ive used the German rig with snowman baits and caught well. I mainly use it with wafters and always get nailed dead centre bottom lip, and good hook holds.
The rig works as its on a stiff boom, so ive never used it over silt, as i think there's better options for these conditions. I was worried the lead would get buried and cause the hook link to sit awkwardly.... But i may be wrong
Hi Pal,
Ive used the German rig with snowman baits and caught well. I mainly use it with wafters and always get nailed dead centre bottom lip, and good hook holds.
The rig works as its on a stiff boom, so ive never used it over silt, as i think there's better options for these conditions. I was worried the lead would get buried and cause the hook link to sit awkwardly.... But i may be wrong
In reply to Post #20
The D is a fixed loop unless you buy the ready made rubber D's.
German you can remove the hook bead so change to swivel, screw etc so more versatile.
Tie them whatever length- 12-14" in softer silt. Match what the lakebed requires really.
The D is a fixed loop unless you buy the ready made rubber D's.
German you can remove the hook bead so change to swivel, screw etc so more versatile.
Tie them whatever length- 12-14" in softer silt. Match what the lakebed requires really.
In reply to Post #19
Yeah I use the German rig as my main wafter rig, I fish it around 13-14" long, with a 16-18mm wafter.
Hooklink is Gardner Ultraskin super-soft, with a PVA foam nugget on the hook, with a size 4 Mugga.
No leadcore or rig tubing, but around 15ft of Gardner Mirage flurocarbon in 30lb.
I've also caught well on this with a snowman (16mm/12mm)
Had 6x UK forties this season on this exact rig, it's my most confident setup.
I fish longer looklengths with all of my rigs now, with larger fish - I think you sometimes need to give them a bit more rope, due to the amount of suction and current they generate when they're feeding next to your hookbait.
Yeah I use the German rig as my main wafter rig, I fish it around 13-14" long, with a 16-18mm wafter.
Hooklink is Gardner Ultraskin super-soft, with a PVA foam nugget on the hook, with a size 4 Mugga.
No leadcore or rig tubing, but around 15ft of Gardner Mirage flurocarbon in 30lb.
I've also caught well on this with a snowman (16mm/12mm)
Had 6x UK forties this season on this exact rig, it's my most confident setup.
I fish longer looklengths with all of my rigs now, with larger fish - I think you sometimes need to give them a bit more rope, due to the amount of suction and current they generate when they're feeding next to your hookbait.
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