Apologies if this has already been asked... I'm looking at the fox frontier, just the small one man version.
Does anyone have one or know any problems or issues with this bivvy?
Thanks in advance 😊
Does anyone have one or know any problems or issues with this bivvy?
Thanks in advance 😊
In reply to Post #1
I only have the bigger one (XD) bought last year. No issues at all.
I only have the bigger one (XD) bought last year. No issues at all.
In reply to Post #1
I was out in my X until Thursday evening last week so it was subjected to 60mph plus gusts in an exposed area and it was solid.
I was out in my X until Thursday evening last week so it was subjected to 60mph plus gusts in an exposed area and it was solid.
In reply to Post #1
I've got the XD and my mate has the X and no issues, great bivvy so far. Check the footprint as there is very little difference between the X and XD, its all about the head room and i imagine the small one will be quite low.
I've got the XD and my mate has the X and no issues, great bivvy so far. Check the footprint as there is very little difference between the X and XD, its all about the head room and i imagine the small one will be quite low.
In reply to Post #1
Unless you have got a compact bed I would get the x,the standard frontier is small.There is a video on you tube showing the bed pushing on both sides of the bivvy
Unless you have got a compact bed I would get the x,the standard frontier is small.There is a video on you tube showing the bed pushing on both sides of the bivvy
In reply to Post #5
Thanks for all the comments guys, I'll definitely be looking at the x as I'm 5.11 with a knackered back 😩
Looks a good bit of kit 👍
Thanks for all the comments guys, I'll definitely be looking at the x as I'm 5.11 with a knackered back 😩
Looks a good bit of kit 👍
I have the XD, all good so far. And passed the poor weather test with storm Eunice
X owner here. Wasn't mad enough to be out last week but no issues with mine when I have used it.
In reply to Post #8
I had put mine side on as expecting it. Had to put banksticks and storm poles in as the ground was sodden and 8" pegs were pulling straight out. The poles flexed but at no point did I ever think it was going to buckle. I did bottle it though and packed up as didn't want to try my luck with 85mph as there was no shelter
I had put mine side on as expecting it. Had to put banksticks and storm poles in as the ground was sodden and 8" pegs were pulling straight out. The poles flexed but at no point did I ever think it was going to buckle. I did bottle it though and packed up as didn't want to try my luck with 85mph as there was no shelter
Any of you Frontier owners done a comparison to a Tempest EV, is the Fox material thinner?
In reply to Post #6
I've also got a knackered back, my mate uses the X and there isn't much noticeable difference in footprint between that and the XD, the biggest difference is in height/headroom and I've found the extra a godsend.
I've also got a knackered back, my mate uses the X and there isn't much noticeable difference in footprint between that and the XD, the biggest difference is in height/headroom and I've found the extra a godsend.
Apparently there is a X+ due out in the next few months, same size footprint as the X but with a clip in inner like the Xd....
In reply to Post #1
The Frontier X is the most popular version. Very well built and utilises the smallish footprint really well. Very happy with mine. I previously had the Nash Camo Pro Xl and the Fox is far better imo
The Frontier X is the most popular version. Very well built and utilises the smallish footprint really well. Very happy with mine. I previously had the Nash Camo Pro Xl and the Fox is far better imo
After going out in the rain yesterday under my Trakker V2 brolly and ended up with neck trying to look out of the door I've seriously been considering going for a Frontier X for the extra head room...
I was just worried about the build quality, has anyone swapped from a tempest to this?
I was just worried about the build quality, has anyone swapped from a tempest to this?
In reply to Post #14
I'm 5ft 11 by the way
I'm 5ft 11 by the way
In reply to Post #15
I've just done exactly that.. Gone from a trakker v2 brolly to a frontier x!! Absolutely no brainer buddy...
I'm the same height as you as well so I feel your pain.. Way too low.
Best decision I've made in some time 👍
I've just done exactly that.. Gone from a trakker v2 brolly to a frontier x!! Absolutely no brainer buddy...
I'm the same height as you as well so I feel your pain.. Way too low.
Best decision I've made in some time 👍
In reply to Post #14
Went from a V2 bivvy to a Frontier X. So far I've had it over a year and the V2 isn't even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence😎
Went from a V2 bivvy to a Frontier X. So far I've had it over a year and the V2 isn't even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence😎
Does the 10cm difference in all dimensions make a real difference between the standard and the X
Keep like looking at the standard but with all the comments wondering if the X is the right choice. Or ad anyone bought the standard then upgraded to the X
Cheers
Keep like looking at the standard but with all the comments wondering if the X is the right choice. Or ad anyone bought the standard then upgraded to the X
Cheers
X+ (new ) can have an inner dome the standard not.
In reply to Post #18
It's not just the size of the x it has 4 windows compared to the 2 of the standard and a wrap is available rather than a vapour peak. I'm not looking for a bivvy but if I were these extra features would definitely sway me away from the standard.
It's not just the size of the x it has 4 windows compared to the 2 of the standard and a wrap is available rather than a vapour peak. I'm not looking for a bivvy but if I were these extra features would definitely sway me away from the standard.
In reply to Post #20
The wrap does not have vents in,that is the only thing that let's it down
The wrap does not have vents in,that is the only thing that let's it down
Cracking info here. Currently looking into the XD.
In reply to Post #22
Yeah I've just bought the XD cracking bivvy
Yeah I've just bought the XD cracking bivvy
In reply to Post #23
Did you consider the standard out of curiosity?
Did you consider the standard out of curiosity?
In reply to Post #22
I have just started using the XD and couldn't be happier. Great bivvy!
I have just started using the XD and couldn't be happier. Great bivvy!
In reply to Post #24
Nope I'm 6'4” so it was the extra height of the XD that appealed
Nope I'm 6'4” so it was the extra height of the XD that appealed
Rather than start a new thread, can anyone comment on the quality of the ventec material compared to that of the aquatex on the pioneer 150? 
In reply to Post #27
Looking at getting a vapour peak... Can you leave it attached when packing away /setting up? Like you do on a tempest!!
TIA
Looking at getting a vapour peak... Can you leave it attached when packing away /setting up? Like you do on a tempest!!
TIA
In reply to Post #28
Yes, you can leave it attached, just need to pull the 3 front poles out from their fixings and loosen off the straps.
Yes, you can leave it attached, just need to pull the 3 front poles out from their fixings and loosen off the straps.
Are the fox haters that jumped on the slag fox superbrolly/ultra converting to this bivvy from said manufacturer using same ventec material? Lol
In reply to Post #21
Personally I wouldn't want vents in a winter wrap that I would only use in winter. Vents are for when it's hot and stuffy and personally I wouldn't chuck a wrap on a bivvy in summer. Vapour peak for summer with vents open and wrap for winter no vents required.
I own 2 bivvies with winter wraps, both have vents.. never used them once.
Really like the look of frontiers, I'm very tempted but I just don't need a third shelter right now. (So I keep telling myself) I've inspected mates frontiers on the bank and they look better than Tempests imo, more robust, better material and better footprints...
Personally I wouldn't want vents in a winter wrap that I would only use in winter. Vents are for when it's hot and stuffy and personally I wouldn't chuck a wrap on a bivvy in summer. Vapour peak for summer with vents open and wrap for winter no vents required.
I own 2 bivvies with winter wraps, both have vents.. never used them once.
Really like the look of frontiers, I'm very tempted but I just don't need a third shelter right now. (So I keep telling myself) I've inspected mates frontiers on the bank and they look better than Tempests imo, more robust, better material and better footprints...
In reply to Post #31
Everyone is different I have only seen two on the bank and I'm still not 100% on them
Everyone is different
I have only seen two on the bank and I'm still not 100% on them
I have the standard frontier and I'm 6ft 2”, I love it, bed doesn't touch the sides and I find it's actually not that low at all and plenty of room for a couple of nights
In reply to Post #31
Hmmm.
Not sure wraps are for winter only.
They help keep the bivvy cooler too in summer I have found
So having vents is absolutely what you do want.
Just my opinion having used em year round myself
Hmmm.
Not sure wraps are for winter only.
They help keep the bivvy cooler too in summer I have found
So having vents is absolutely what you do want.
Just my opinion having used em year round myself
If the skin had windows I would never have returned it, I prefer a skin over a vapor peak even in summer it keeps the bivvy cooler.
In reply to Post #35
Sure army Andy could add vents.
Sure army Andy could add vents.
In reply to Post #36
I'm from Belgium but in my town is also a Sailmaker that could do it but if you want it decent you should have 2 wraps so that the windows can be made of the same material, it will cost a bit.
Maby on a day there is someone new at Fox who is smart and they will still come up with a skin with windows.
After 5 years the options could have been worked out better same goes for the new camo versions: no camo wrap
I'm from Belgium but in my town is also a Sailmaker that could do it but if you want it decent you should have 2 wraps so that the windows can be made of the same material, it will cost a bit.
Maby on a day there is someone new at Fox who is smart and they will still come up with a skin with windows.
After 5 years the options could have been worked out better same goes for the new camo versions: no camo wrap
In reply to Post #37
Agreed, someone really needs their ass kicked, same if anyone feild tested it.
Agreed, someone really needs their ass kicked, same if anyone feild tested it.
In reply to Post #21
Massive oversight really the absence of vents in the wrap, that said, I'm still buying one for my XD. I will be taking it along and throwing it over mine when there's a bit of rain on the way. Far easier to keep the bivvy dry with that oversheet so for that reason alone for me it's a no brainer.
Anyone know where the XD overwraps are on sale less than £204 each I'm gonna pick one up next week?
Massive oversight really the absence of vents in the wrap, that said, I'm still buying one for my XD. I will be taking it along and throwing it over mine when there's a bit of rain on the way. Far easier to keep the bivvy dry with that oversheet so for that reason alone for me it's a no brainer.
Anyone know where the XD overwraps are on sale less than £204 each I'm gonna pick one up next week?
In reply to Post #39
Why not contact army Andy and custom carp products to see if they could make one with vents. Worth a try.
Why not contact army Andy and custom carp products to see if they could make one with vents. Worth a try.
In reply to Post #40
That's an option mate. I can see that being £50 a vent easy. I'm not in that much of a rush to be honest, the thing that hacks me off is I'll buy one of these and before you can blink an "overwrap +" will appear and I will of wasted £200.
That's an option mate. I can see that being £50 a vent easy. I'm not in that much of a rush to be honest, the thing that hacks me off is I'll buy one of these and before you can blink an "overwrap +" will appear and I will of wasted £200.
In reply to Post #31
Brilliant bit of kit mate the Frontier, you wont regret buying one. I caved too and got the XD despite having three other bivvies
Don't regret it at all, but bloody glad I got the bill out of the way last year
Brilliant bit of kit mate the Frontier, you wont regret buying one. I caved too and got the XD despite having three other bivvies
Don't regret it at all, but bloody glad I got the bill out of the way last year
how much are people paying for the frontier x?? I can pick one up for 450, parkfield have quoted 500,
In reply to Post #43
£450 for an X from whare ? Seems like a bargain and I'm not a fan but could be converted at that price.
£450 for an X from whare ? Seems like a bargain and I'm not a fan but could be converted at that price.
Saw the fox Frontier X yesterday, was actually surprised that it didn't feel so low, I'm thinking of swapping my Frontier XD with a Frontier X camo.
In reply to Post #44
£489 is the cheapest I've seen advertised for a Frontier X.
£489 is the cheapest I've seen advertised for a Frontier X.
In reply to Post #46
Lowest price in Belgium/Netherlands € 548,24 (£456,51) 15% discount
Fishdeal Uk £549.95
Lowest price in Belgium/Netherlands € 548,24 (£456,51) 15% discount
Fishdeal Uk £549.95
sounds like 450 was a good deal then.
In reply to Post #48
From?
From?
In reply to Post #49
Bristol angling with the 10% discount code in the discount thread
Bristol angling with the 10% discount code in the discount thread
In reply to Post #50
use discount tenoff3 on ebay and you'll get one for £441
use discount tenoff3 on ebay and you'll get one for £441
In reply to Post #50
Out of stock.
Out of stock.
In reply to Post #52
Do Frontiers come with a strap so you can use them without the groundsheet please?
Do Frontiers come with a strap so you can use them without the groundsheet please?
In reply to Post #53
Yes
Yes
Damm found a shop in The Netherlands (no website) £435,45 for the Frontier X
But still in doubt between the X, X+ or X camo (x+ and camo cost alot more)
But still in doubt between the X, X+ or X camo (x+ and camo cost alot more)
In reply to Post #55
Bargain, never pay more just for a pattern.
Bargain, never pay more just for a pattern.
Don't know if it's any help but if the X+ is just the X with an inner capsule then I would stick with the X and get the vapour peak or overwrap. Love my X and think it's the perfect size but would miss that bit of room you'd lose with an inner capsule.
Plain vs Camo is obviously a purely aesthetic decision but I stopped playing army when I got long trousers so plain for me
Plain vs Camo is obviously a purely aesthetic decision but I stopped playing army when I got long trousers so plain for me
In reply to Post #57
Yeah but when your head to toe in camo with your war painted face on I suppose a camo bivvy is the only option.
Yeah but when your head to toe in camo with your war painted face on I suppose a camo bivvy is the only option.
I go for the standard color X+, inner capsule/ overwrap in the winter, in summer X with overwrap but without the inner capsule, on my x i will zip the full camo mesh in summer (to keep bugs out) and keep the closed front on my wrap for when it will rains, also going to have 4 windows made in the overwrap.
I've just picked up a mozzie front for my x for £29 off ebay
In reply to Post #59
Only downside to the over wrap is no rear/side vents :(
Only downside to the over wrap is no rear/side vents :(
In reply to Post #61
That's a plus point for me, fewer joins/seems less chance of a leak.
That's a plus point for me, fewer joins/seems less chance of a leak.
In reply to Post #60
just picked the vapour peak up from tackeuk for £71
Happy with that
just picked the vapour peak up from tackeuk for £71
Happy with that
Found some nice promo in the Netherlands
X €483 (£406)
X+ €662 (£557)
Camo x €705 (£593)
Camo x is not yet known if there will be a Camo overwrap, the x is very cheap but I think in the long run I will regret not going for the inner dome option, in the winter it is an extra layer.
X €483 (£406)
X+ €662 (£557)
Camo x €705 (£593)
Camo x is not yet known if there will be a Camo overwrap, the x is very cheap but I think in the long run I will regret not going for the inner dome option, in the winter it is an extra layer.
In reply to Post #64
Hi Jimmy, what shop was this? I live in the Netherlands but I can't find such prices.
Hi Jimmy, what shop was this? I live in the Netherlands but I can't find such prices.
Carpworld.com 15 % discount now
In reply to Post #64
Frontier x £505 on there.
Frontier x £505 on there.
In reply to Post #67
505 Euro, the one for €483 is the last piece in another store, but I have to decide first which type to take tommorow,.
505 Euro, the one for €483 is the last piece in another store, but I have to decide first which type to take tommorow,.
In reply to Post #68
Don't deliver to the UK... Shame
Don't deliver to the UK... Shame
In reply to Post #68
No £505.74 for the x and as said don't deliver to UK.
https://www.carpworld.com/nl/frontier-x.html?id=
No £505.74 for the x and as said don't deliver to UK.
https://www.carpworld.com/nl/frontier-x.html?id=
In reply to Post #70
It's a Dutch shop so it's Euro not pound
For the Dutch people that want one cheap Vismania.nl have 1 X in stock for €483 (£406)
Carpworld also have only 1 in stock (yesterday 5) promo end at 05/04/2022.
Both shops are a 3 hour drive from me in the Netherlands (I'm from Belgium) tomorrow I'm going to buy one in a shop 25 min drive from me for €515 (£433) still a decent price (Top notch in Sittard, no webshop) 3 hours drive and if there is something wrong is just me too far.
Edit: Vismania Frontier X out of stock now.
It's a Dutch shop so it's Euro not pound
For the Dutch people that want one cheap Vismania.nl have 1 X in stock for €483 (£406)
Carpworld also have only 1 in stock (yesterday 5) promo end at 05/04/2022.
Both shops are a 3 hour drive from me in the Netherlands (I'm from Belgium) tomorrow I'm going to buy one in a shop 25 min drive from me for €515 (£433) still a decent price (Top notch in Sittard, no webshop) 3 hours drive and if there is something wrong is just me too far.
Edit: Vismania Frontier X out of stock now.
In reply to Post #71
Yes ditch but there is an English translation button and when I veiw it in English that euro price becomes £505.74. That a fiver more than I can buy one in the UK.
Yes ditch but there is an English translation button and when I veiw it in English that euro price becomes £505.74. That a fiver more than I can buy one in the UK.
In reply to Post #72
Thats the translate that makes € in to £ has nothing to do with the store prices (the dont sell/ship to Uk), we pay with the promo €505 in this shop which is converted £425.
Thats the translate that makes € in to £ has nothing to do with the store prices (the dont sell/ship to Uk), we pay with the promo €505 in this shop which is converted £425.
The new social caps look good for these
In reply to Post #74
Also in Camo version?
Also in Camo version?
In reply to Post #75
Not seen a camo version
Not seen a camo version
In reply to Post #76
Any links for the social cap
Any links for the social cap
In reply to Post #77
same here tried looking it up on google but no info on it whatsover. if they do one for a xd with the added height as much as i hate fox might just have to bite the bullet lol
same here tried looking it up on google but no info on it whatsover. if they do one for a xd with the added height as much as i hate fox might just have to bite the bullet lol
In reply to Post #77
I have only seen it on the latest fox you tube video,behind the scenes product shoot
I have only seen it on the latest fox you tube video,behind the scenes product shoot
In reply to Post #79
ah just had a quick look its only coming out later in the year. looks similar to trakker design. could be good with the xd with extra height. the extensions on the lower height bivvys are a real pain. crawling for 2m inside it to get to your bivvy lol. made that mistake before with the double top version. was horrible for a fat man with a broken back
ah just had a quick look its only coming out later in the year. looks similar to trakker design. could be good with the xd with extra height. the extensions on the lower height bivvys are a real pain. crawling for 2m inside it to get to your bivvy lol. made that mistake before with the double top version. was horrible for a fat man with a broken back
I'm guessing it's the X you see in the video, the front looks pretty high to me of the social cap
In reply to Post #76
They will probably release both versions but I was hoping they'd bring these out.
They will probably release both versions but I was hoping they'd bring these out.
In reply to Post #82
The only thing for sure now is that they never answer even if you ask it Fox 100x if the bring it in Camo.
Edit:Called Fox Belgium, they don't know anything and have not yet received any info from fox Uk about a Camo social cap version, they keep their lips tight on that at fox uk, don't forget the camo is a limited edition product for the same money the canvas in that pattern is no longer available, would be a big mistake if Fox didn't make these in camo but you never know with them.
The only thing for sure now is that they never answer even if you ask it Fox 100x if the bring it in Camo.
Edit:Called Fox Belgium, they don't know anything and have not yet received any info from fox Uk about a Camo social cap version, they keep their lips tight on that at fox uk, don't forget the camo is a limited edition product for the same money the canvas in that pattern is no longer available, would be a big mistake if Fox didn't make these in camo but you never know with them.
In reply to Post #82
Not sure which model this is, but should give an idea what they look like.
Apologies for the poor image quality.
Take my money
Not sure which model this is, but should give an idea what they look like.
Apologies for the poor image quality.
Take my money
In reply to Post #84
No side windows so the standard frontier, i like the height good move from Fox
No side windows so the standard frontier, i like the height good move from Fox
In reply to Post #84
Hideous.
Hideous.
In reply to Post #86
Doesn't look any different to the tempest social cap to me.
Doesn't look any different to the tempest social cap to me.
In reply to Post #86
Got product email from Fox today.
They will introduce a Frontier Lite.
Almost the same as the normal Frontier but with 10.000mm HH fabric.
Let say the same idea as Tempest Brolly 100.
Less weight and somewhat cheaper.
Got product email from Fox today.
They will introduce a Frontier Lite.
Almost the same as the normal Frontier but with 10.000mm HH fabric.
Let say the same idea as Tempest Brolly 100.
Less weight and somewhat cheaper.
In reply to Post #87
Need a good size swim fit that in
Need a good size swim fit that in
In reply to Post #89
You are not wrong.
You are not wrong.
In reply to Post #87
Yeah that's hideous as well. Can understand people wanting a one man for general use with the ability to convert to two man for taking partner or children but these are just not for me. Having sad that my son is big enough to go on his own.
Yeah that's hideous as well. Can understand people wanting a one man for general use with the ability to convert to two man for taking partner or children but these are just not for me. Having sad that my son is big enough to go on his own.
In reply to Post #91
For me those porches are more for when you have a 4 day session in the rain. perfect to cook in and sit in your chair etc. Cant see it being good for a 2 man myself tbh
For me those porches are more for when you have a 4 day session in the rain. perfect to cook in and sit in your chair etc. Cant see it being good for a 2 man myself tbh
In reply to Post #92
It's great for when my 6 year old son comes along, he can sit at his gaming table underneath during the day protected from the sun, also for myself it's ideal i have to avoid the sun as much as possible
It's great for when my 6 year old son comes along, he can sit at his gaming table underneath during the day protected from the sun, also for myself it's ideal i have to avoid the sun as much as possible
In reply to Post #92
I think that's a big plus and one of the main drivers for me. A bit of shade possibly but as you can unzip all the windows less important. 2 man conversion definitely 👍
I think that's a big plus and one of the main drivers for me. A bit of shade possibly but as you can unzip all the windows less important. 2 man conversion definitely 👍
In reply to Post #86
I always find comments on the aesthetics of bivvys funny, its the function Im more worried about lol
I always find comments on the aesthetics of bivvys funny, its the function Im more worried about lol
I've done two week session in my pioneer ultralite but I take minimum kit I can get away with.
In reply to Post #95
Aesthetics aside I can't see that functioning well in gale force winds but then it wouldn't be set up anywhere I fish as its far to big.
Aesthetics aside I can't see that functioning well in gale force winds but then it wouldn't be set up anywhere I fish as its far to big.
In reply to Post #88
Did they say when the Frontier Lite was going to be released? Cannot find any info on it
Did they say when the Frontier Lite was going to be released? Cannot find any info on it
In reply to Post #98
Latest video says April,it does not say which April though
Latest video says April,it does not say which April though
In reply to Post #98
Here it is: https://youtu.be/p4H5grMM4As
Here it is: https://youtu.be/p4H5grMM4As
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Just received my Frontier X, paid £499 for the bivvy, vapour peak and Mozy mesh front, damm nice deal.
Hopefully the social caps will come fast on the market soon, the front height looks damn good
Hopefully the social caps will come fast on the market soon, the front height looks damn good
In reply to Post #101
Sorry Jimmy, had to resize those images.
Sorry Jimmy, had to resize those images.
In reply to Post #103
Np the social caps still look huge after resizing
Link to original non resize photo
photo 1 Frontier Social cap
photo 2 Frontier Social cap
Np the social caps still look huge after resizing
Link to original non resize photo
photo 1 Frontier Social cap
photo 2 Frontier Social cap
In reply to Post #98
Watched it last night, then couldn't way up if yer just as better off buying the standard Frontier for £50 extra and get everything with it after adding groundsheet and infill panel plus storm sticks
Watched it last night, then couldn't way up if yer just as better off buying the standard Frontier for £50 extra and get everything with it after adding groundsheet and infill panel plus storm sticks
In reply to Post #102
Where abouts was the £499 deal Zinno?
Cheers
Where abouts was the £499 deal Zinno?
Cheers
In reply to Post #106
2 Dutch shops but the promotions are done now.
2 Dutch shops but the promotions are done now.
In reply to Post #107
Thanks Zinno - I'll stop being a tight ass and get one bought (to go with all the other bivvies I never use)
Thanks Zinno - I'll stop being a tight ass and get one bought (to go with all the other bivvies I never use)
In reply to Post #108
Am like that, thinking so much about getting one of these but have
Trakker armo and wrap ( nothing wrong with it)
1st Fox sup Brolly and wrap, Brolly doesn't leak ( again nothing wrong with it)
Brand new Jrc Sti 10,000 Brolly
Brand new Aqua M3 compact and wrap ( tried selling it )
Does it ever end
Am like that, thinking so much about getting one of these but have
Trakker armo and wrap ( nothing wrong with it)
1st Fox sup Brolly and wrap, Brolly doesn't leak ( again nothing wrong with it)
Brand new Jrc Sti 10,000 Brolly
Brand new Aqua M3 compact and wrap ( tried selling it )
Does it ever end
In reply to Post #108
Was looking at the standard on in poingdesters a couple of hours ago, material looks very good and £450 is good for it as if you sign up as a gold member you'll get 10% off of that.
Was looking at the standard on in poingdesters a couple of hours ago, material looks very good and £450 is good for it as if you sign up as a gold member you'll get 10% off of that.
In reply to Post #109
Think I can top that....
Venture Razorback with wrap
Aqua mk 1 with extended wrap
Fox eclipse 2 man with wrap
Avid dual hq 2 man
Aqua 60 brolley with front
Trakker tempest advanced with skull cap wrap
Daiwa Mission
And just about to buy a frontier...
Don't mention all that's been sold, ie multiple atoms, jrc, easy domes, groundhogs, titans of all flavours. I think I've had them all
Think I can top that....
Venture Razorback with wrap
Aqua mk 1 with extended wrap
Fox eclipse 2 man with wrap
Avid dual hq 2 man
Aqua 60 brolley with front
Trakker tempest advanced with skull cap wrap
Daiwa Mission
And just about to buy a frontier...
Don't mention all that's been sold, ie multiple atoms, jrc, easy domes, groundhogs, titans of all flavours. I think I've had them all
In reply to Post #111
All you need now, rods, reels, tackle, alarms, bedchair, sleeping bag, cooking kit, net, unhooking matt and you'll be good to go.
All you need now, rods, reels, tackle, alarms, bedchair, sleeping bag, cooking kit, net, unhooking matt and you'll be good to go.
In reply to Post #112
Don't start me on rods......or alarms.....
Just no carp
Don't start me on rods......or alarms.....
Just no carp
In reply to Post #110
Thanks for the poindestres tip. I'd have spent more
Thanks for the poindestres tip. I'd have spent more
In reply to Post #114
The Frontier X turned up this morning.
Not sure whether I'm used to a Tempest Advanced and it's tiny footprint but this seems feckin massive.
Its as heavy as carrying a body around
I think I've spent too long with my lightweight venture razor back. Not sure if this Frontier X is going to be too big for me. It feels like nearly a 2 man (and its def not the XD they've sent, I had a proper check.
I'll go out in it a couple of times, see what its like, if I can't get on with it, might be checking the Frontier (non X) for size.
Does everyone else think the X is normal for a 1 man tent?
The Frontier X turned up this morning.
Not sure whether I'm used to a Tempest Advanced and it's tiny footprint but this seems feckin massive.
Its as heavy as carrying a body around
I think I've spent too long with my lightweight venture razor back. Not sure if this Frontier X is going to be too big for me. It feels like nearly a 2 man (and its def not the XD they've sent, I had a proper check.
I'll go out in it a couple of times, see what its like, if I can't get on with it, might be checking the Frontier (non X) for size.
Does everyone else think the X is normal for a 1 man tent?
In reply to Post #115
This made me smile, like you I have recently bought a frontier x. Previous bivvy was a cayman and one before that a razorback. I wanted a bigger bivvy, I'm getting on now and thought I deserved some comfort. I've now done 4 sessions in it and I'm very happy..... That is apart from the weight, as you say like carrying a body around.
The size of the bag does not help, it was a puzzle how to fit it on the barrow. A comment on here helped, load the barrow then last thing on is the frontier, across the handles, works a treat unless you have narrow paths or in my case bridges to navigate but even then when positioned across the handles its easy to take off and carry for short distances.
Im sure you will soon get used to it
This made me smile, like you I have recently bought a frontier x. Previous bivvy was a cayman and one before that a razorback. I wanted a bigger bivvy, I'm getting on now and thought I deserved some comfort. I've now done 4 sessions in it and I'm very happy..... That is apart from the weight, as you say like carrying a body around.
The size of the bag does not help, it was a puzzle how to fit it on the barrow. A comment on here helped, load the barrow then last thing on is the frontier, across the handles, works a treat unless you have narrow paths or in my case bridges to navigate but even then when positioned across the handles its easy to take off and carry for short distances.
Im sure you will soon get used to it
In reply to Post #115
For me it's the ideal 1 man foodprint, with a standard 205x80cm bedchair (i can fiannaly drop mu to heave oval levelite tall) i have on the sides room for : bivvy table, carryall, coolbox and a large dog bench + all the room under the bedchair
I always wanted a +150cm high 1 man so i was very happy with my Xd , when i saw the X in shop i was happy to see that it's not that low and much easier to set up than the XD, it dont feel like a 140cm high bivvy if you sit in it.
Also dont forget the X on the outside is still small 260x198 cm bivvy but with a top footprint, eg trakker 100 and Nash t1 have less space inside and take up more space outside
For me it's the ideal 1 man foodprint, with a standard 205x80cm bedchair (i can fiannaly drop mu to heave oval levelite tall) i have on the sides room for : bivvy table, carryall, coolbox and a large dog bench + all the room under the bedchair
I always wanted a +150cm high 1 man so i was very happy with my Xd , when i saw the X in shop i was happy to see that it's not that low and much easier to set up than the XD, it dont feel like a 140cm high bivvy if you sit in it.
Also dont forget the X on the outside is still small 260x198 cm bivvy but with a top footprint, eg trakker 100 and Nash t1 have less space inside and take up more space outside
In reply to Post #117
If you don't mind me asking what difference in set up is there between the X and XD ?
If you don't mind me asking what difference in set up is there between the X and XD ?
In reply to Post #117
So you you recommend the X over the XD ?
Im going to get a dog soon and he will start going with me as soon as possible.
i recently bought a trakker 100 ev brolly (the new one) but with my new solar sleep system its not tall enough cant sit straight
So my question is, will the X be enought for a wide bed and a dog plus obviously all the kit ?
Thank you
So you you recommend the X over the XD ?
Im going to get a dog soon and he will start going with me as soon as possible.
i recently bought a trakker 100 ev brolly (the new one) but with my new solar sleep system its not tall enough cant sit straight
So my question is, will the X be enought for a wide bed and a dog plus obviously all the kit ?
Thank you
In reply to Post #119
90cm bedchair + dog bench (mine = L80 x B 55 x H 60cm) is no problem in the X
I'm not that tall myself 173cm the X is much easier for me to put on than the Xd, if the xd size in no problem Xd are +180cm tall I would just take the Xd.
Will set up x groundsheet again tomorrow with all my tackle on it and take a picture of it
90cm bedchair + dog bench (mine = L80 x B 55 x H 60cm) is no problem in the X
I'm not that tall myself 173cm the X is much easier for me to put on than the Xd, if the xd size in no problem Xd are +180cm tall I would just take the Xd.
Will set up x groundsheet again tomorrow with all my tackle on it and take a picture of it
In reply to Post #120
Im 177cm myself so not much taller
will have a look on the pictures when you post them, and probably end up selling my pretty much brand new tempest, and get an X
Im 177cm myself so not much taller
will have a look on the pictures when you post them, and probably end up selling my pretty much brand new tempest, and get an X
In reply to Post #121
Christian, your bivvy evolution sounds a lot like mine. After years with a Razorback, carrying this thing is a joke tbh.
I've spent a fair bit of time under a Tempest Advanced and a lot of people moan about them for size. I'm 6'2 and get on with the size of the Tempest fine but what drew me to the Frontier was the flat back. I found the back of the Tempest almost dead space.
I'll give the Frontier X a few go's before I completely moan about it
I'll stay open minded right now but my god its big....it brought all the memories of my old "French trip" bivvy.... a Continental Easy Dome. Lord have mercy on my barrow.
As to the person saying X or XD. Please, please look at them both. I would buy the XD with extreme caution. I think the X will be fine for your needs. I actually think I would have been better with a standard, but then I thought "I can't have the overwrap" and I wanted this to be the "all seasons" bivvy, i.e. summer and winter...not so sure now. Now I just have another fecking bivvy - there is not a perfect bivvy out there, I've decided
But I keep trying to find one
Christian, your bivvy evolution sounds a lot like mine. After years with a Razorback, carrying this thing is a joke tbh.
I've spent a fair bit of time under a Tempest Advanced and a lot of people moan about them for size. I'm 6'2 and get on with the size of the Tempest fine but what drew me to the Frontier was the flat back. I found the back of the Tempest almost dead space.
I'll give the Frontier X a few go's before I completely moan about it
I'll stay open minded right now but my god its big....it brought all the memories of my old "French trip" bivvy.... a Continental Easy Dome. Lord have mercy on my barrow.
As to the person saying X or XD. Please, please look at them both. I would buy the XD with extreme caution. I think the X will be fine for your needs. I actually think I would have been better with a standard, but then I thought "I can't have the overwrap" and I wanted this to be the "all seasons" bivvy, i.e. summer and winter...not so sure now. Now I just have another fecking bivvy - there is not a perfect bivvy out there, I've decided
But I keep trying to find one
In reply to Post #122
Just set it all up in the garden again. I can definitely see the appeal despite the size and as someone mentioned earlier, the footprint isn't that big. The inside seems very big though compared to the tempest advanced 100.
But I'm definitely going to give it a few sessions. I'm sure all will be forgiven when I use one of those pockets for my receiver
Done a quick mod on the storm poles. Screwed in a couple of old quick releases that I used to use on a pod. Screwing stuff in on the bankside ? That's a bit demanding
Just set it all up in the garden again. I can definitely see the appeal despite the size and as someone mentioned earlier, the footprint isn't that big. The inside seems very big though compared to the tempest advanced 100.
But I'm definitely going to give it a few sessions. I'm sure all will be forgiven when I use one of those pockets for my receiver
Done a quick mod on the storm poles. Screwed in a couple of old quick releases that I used to use on a pod. Screwing stuff in on the bankside ? That's a bit demanding
In reply to Post #123
Thing is most anglers now are fishing busy day ticket waters with no chance of moving swim so settup for comfortable camping.
Thing is most anglers now are fishing busy day ticket waters with no chance of moving swim so settup for comfortable camping.
Is the X bigger than the Nash Titan T1 packed?
In reply to Post #123
Just don't do what I did and pack the bivvy away with your wallet in the pocket.
Just don't do what I did and pack the bivvy away with your wallet in the pocket.
In reply to Post #126
Amazed you didn't notice a fat thing like that surely you struggled to get it in the bivvy bag.
Amazed you didn't notice a fat thing like that surely you struggled to get it in the bivvy bag.
In reply to Post #126
I also did that with my Xd with inner capsule, car keys and wallet in the side pockets ,
only realized it when I arrived at the car with the fully loaded barrow + it was also raining...
I also put my groundscheet, vapor peak and pegs in a diffrent bag, it saves weight and easier to put the bivvy in the bag + dont take all pegs with you you only need half from what in the peg bag put you will save a good 800grams, the frontier peg bag is ridiculously heavy.
I also did that with my Xd with inner capsule, car keys and wallet in the side pockets
,only realized it when I arrived at the car with the fully loaded barrow + it was also raining...
I also put my groundscheet, vapor peak and pegs in a diffrent bag, it saves weight and easier to put the bivvy in the bag + dont take all pegs with you you only need half from what in the peg bag put you will save a good 800grams, the frontier peg bag is ridiculously heavy.
In reply to Post #119
adoption? :D
adoption? :D
In reply to Post #123
Done a quick mod on the storm poles. Screwed in a couple of old quick releases that I used to use on a pod. Screwing stuff in on the bankside ? That's a bit demanding
Snap.... I did exactly the same
Done a quick mod on the storm poles. Screwed in a couple of old quick releases that I used to use on a pod. Screwing stuff in on the bankside ? That's a bit demanding
Snap.... I did exactly the same
In reply to Post #130
Agreed on the peg bag. Ridiculously heavy and a load of pegs you won't normally need all of. But better to have more than less. Will definitely trim those down.
Agreed on the peg bag. Ridiculously heavy and a load of pegs you won't normally need all of. But better to have more than less. Will definitely trim those down.
In reply to Post #126
Done this about 4 times, wallet, keys, receiver, head torches🤦🏼♂️😂😂
Done this about 4 times, wallet, keys, receiver, head torches🤦🏼♂️😂😂
My Frontier X setup after removing the bivvy
-The bench is L82xW52x60h
-Bedchair is Prologic inspire 6 leg 205 x 80 (dont buy it lol) waiting for my new one.
-Coolbox Coleman 28Qt Marine
-Last picture is 1 meter from side Bedchair/side bench
Nowhere does anything touch the sides of the bivvy with this setup.
https://postimg.cc/CZMj8csw
-The bench is L82xW52x60h
-Bedchair is Prologic inspire 6 leg 205 x 80 (dont buy it lol) waiting for my new one.
-Coolbox Coleman 28Qt Marine
-Last picture is 1 meter from side Bedchair/side bench
Nowhere does anything touch the sides of the bivvy with this setup.
https://postimg.cc/CZMj8csw
In reply to Post #133
thank you for the pictures
will probably going for the X, just need to sell my pretty much brand new tempest
I was going to buy frontier last year, but they were not yet available at the time, totally regret it now!
especially after getting the new Wide Solar sleep system
thank you for the pictures
will probably going for the X, just need to sell my pretty much brand new tempest
I was going to buy frontier last year, but they were not yet available at the time, totally regret it now!
especially after getting the new Wide Solar sleep system
Just dragging this thread back up due to a couple of questions
Is the height of bivvy given the door height ? 130 standard and 140 X or the height at highest point ?
Anyone got the Standard and think it's fine for size etc. entrance through door because of pic just below in thread the X looks massive and looking at pics for standard version some make it look low and others look ok height wise
Cheers
Is the height of bivvy given the door height ? 130 standard and 140 X or the height at highest point ?
Anyone got the Standard and think it's fine for size etc. entrance through door because of pic just below in thread the X looks massive and looking at pics for standard version some make it look low and others look ok height wise
Cheers
In reply to Post #135
130 cm is Frontier X door height, 143 cm is Frontier Xd door height, highest point on the Xd and X are higher than the sizes in the spec's, standard frontier door height will probably be 120cm and highest point over 130
130 cm is Frontier X door height, 143 cm is Frontier Xd door height, highest point on the Xd and X are higher than the sizes in the spec's, standard frontier door height will probably be 120cm and highest point over 130
In reply to Post #135
I've got the standard frontier, I love it, tiny footprint and plenty of room for me. I'm 6ft 2 and have a fox flatliner bed and it doesn't touch the sides as some people say.
I've got the standard frontier, I love it, tiny footprint and plenty of room for me. I'm 6ft 2 and have a fox flatliner bed and it doesn't touch the sides as some people say.
In reply to Post #134
I have the frontier X and have a Nash ss4 wide boy in there. Absolutely perfect fit and a bit longer than the solar wide. It doesn't touch anywhere mainly because the sides and back rise up 1 meter before they start to encroach on the height that's what make them feel bigger. Looked at the Nash hide camo Xl with the ss4 and it touched all the way around made my mind up to get the frontier.
It's absolutely rock solid when it's pegged down with the front on as well these people saying it's crap in wind clearly don't have one
I have the frontier X and have a Nash ss4 wide boy in there. Absolutely perfect fit and a bit longer than the solar wide. It doesn't touch anywhere mainly because the sides and back rise up 1 meter before they start to encroach on the height that's what make them feel bigger. Looked at the Nash hide camo Xl with the ss4 and it touched all the way around made my mind up to get the frontier.
It's absolutely rock solid when it's pegged down with the front on as well these people saying it's crap in wind clearly don't have one
Well I bit the bullet a couple weeks ago and decided to get a frontier X (still kept my tempest for the minute) used it for the last 3 days and I'm very impressed absolutely love it seems very well made, when I got home I decided to sell the tempest and I loved that thing just didn't need both
In reply to Post #139
Hi Rich,
Do you think the quality is better than your Tempest?
Hi Rich,
Do you think the quality is better than your Tempest?
In reply to Post #140
Never thought I'd say this but yes not taking anything away from the tempest because I loved mine but moving over I am very happy with it, will it last the rest of time like my tempest? I don't no but the early signs are very good mate
Never thought I'd say this but yes not taking anything away from the tempest because I loved mine but moving over I am very happy with it, will it last the rest of time like my tempest? I don't no but the early signs are very good mate
In reply to Post #141
Thanks for that reply! I appreciate it
Thanks for that reply! I appreciate it
In reply to Post #142
I had a Tempest and moved to an X. That X is good but I am still finding it far bulkier and heavier than the trakker. I miss the weight.
I had a Tempest and moved to an X. That X is good but I am still finding it far bulkier and heavier than the trakker. I miss the weight.
In reply to Post #143
Is there much difference in set up and pack away times between the frontiers and tempests?
Is there much difference in set up and pack away times between the frontiers and tempests?
In reply to Post #144
None, had tempests and changed torontier when first come out and its a phenomenal piece of kit. Been out in all weather's and no problems whatsoever. Practicality is far superior on the frontier
None, had tempests and changed torontier when first come out and its a phenomenal piece of kit. Been out in all weather's and no problems whatsoever. Practicality is far superior on the frontier
Anyone got a frontier x with the vapour peak and know if it can be packed away ok with it attached.
In reply to Post #146
I have a frontier x and I keep the front zipped on but not the vapour peak, I think to keep both attached might be a bit much when packing away, making it a bit too bulky to get in the storage bag and for me it's easier to add the peak which takes seconds.
I have a frontier x and I keep the front zipped on but not the vapour peak, I think to keep both attached might be a bit much when packing away, making it a bit too bulky to get in the storage bag and for me it's easier to add the peak which takes seconds.
In reply to Post #146
I take the front off but leave the vapour peak on
I take the front off but leave the vapour peak on
Got my new Fox Frontier X in last week. Seems like a well thought out bivvy and good materials. It's completely black inside, even in sunny weather.
One thing that bugs me (without even using it): Fox has chosen to use plastic zips for the front infill panel, but metal ones for the windows. Even the Tempest brolly has metal zips all around!
One thing that bugs me (without even using it): Fox has chosen to use plastic zips for the front infill panel, but metal ones for the windows. Even the Tempest brolly has metal zips all around!
See a lot have managed to break block on these, thread on chasing chunks, fox now stock spares for repair.
In reply to Post #150
Can't see any videos on his Facebook
Can't see any videos on his Facebook
In reply to Post #151
Was a thread someone posted about breaking a joint in the block and people replied that had the same issue.
Was a thread someone posted about breaking a joint in the block and people replied that had the same issue.
In reply to Post #152
Oh dear that's not good
Oh dear that's not good
I'm surprised, unless it heavy handed handling, there does not seem to be much tension on the block unlike the Nash hide.
In reply to Post #154
Stupidity is in all layers, if you handle the Frontier correctly the block will not break.
Even knew someone who pushed the left bar out of the block, forgot to push the middle bar down first, his solution: Blame Fox
Stupidity is in all layers, if you handle the Frontier correctly the block will not break.
Even knew someone who pushed the left bar out of the block, forgot to push the middle bar down first, his solution: Blame Fox
In reply to Post #155
If there were a lot breaking it would be all over this site.
I bought the X last month, very impressed so far.
If there were a lot breaking it would be all over this site.
I bought the X last month, very impressed so far.
In reply to Post #152
If people are breaking the block that is entirely on them, there is virtually no tension on it.
I witnessed some clampit break an XD last year. He had the poles twisted so there was too much tension in the fabric. I shouted at him to stop, but he didn't and he popped 1 of the front bar ends. His answer was that it was a bag of **** and it was all Fox's fault
You just can't account for the idiocy of some people.
If people are breaking the block that is entirely on them, there is virtually no tension on it.
I witnessed some clampit break an XD last year. He had the poles twisted so there was too much tension in the fabric. I shouted at him to stop, but he didn't and he popped 1 of the front bar ends. His answer was that it was a bag of **** and it was all Fox's fault
You just can't account for the idiocy of some people.
In reply to Post #157
Don't doubt it's user error or abuse, happens with lots of products.
Don't doubt it's user error or abuse, happens with lots of products.
In reply to Post #158
Unfortunately that is very true mate.
Unfortunately that is very true mate.
In reply to Post #157
Agreed.
In my experience the poles and blocks mostly break when something is caught up.
I've had a Pioneer.for years so that helps. You get very used to the tension. If it's like double difficult, don't force it, somethings caught up.
Mind you I had some material come adrift at a tension point
On a Tempest but obviously that could be a stitching issue
Agreed.
In my experience the poles and blocks mostly break when something is caught up.
I've had a Pioneer.for years so that helps. You get very used to the tension. If it's like double difficult, don't force it, somethings caught up.
Mind you I had some material come adrift at a tension point
On a Tempest but obviously that could be a stitching issue
In reply to Post #160
Bit of advice please, going back to match fishing. I've got a Frontier x incl mozzi front used once in perfect condition. How much would be a realistic sell price guys?
Bit of advice please, going back to match fishing. I've got a Frontier x incl mozzi front used once in perfect condition. How much would be a realistic sell price guys?
In reply to Post #161
Gallon of diesel or gallon of petrol and a banana.
Gallon of diesel or gallon of petrol and a banana.
In reply to Post #162
Well my 4 month frontier x broke 2 week back, i was setting up and the left of the 3 front peak poles popped out of the block, they have a swivel ball on the end thats holding them in the block, it just pooped out and wouldnt go back in.... Its possible the material had caught under the bivvy but it didnt feel under much pressure.
I Rang the wonderful parkfield angling and they exchanged it for a new one. I was expecting a repair tbh. Top service.
Only a week later a mate was fishing on an exposed bank in very strong winds. A huge gust hit the back of his XD, he heard a bang but the bivvy stayed up, only on packing up did he find the rear pole had sheared off at the block..
Hopefully isolated incidents as i do really like the bivvy.
Well my 4 month frontier x broke 2 week back, i was setting up and the left of the 3 front peak poles popped out of the block, they have a swivel ball on the end thats holding them in the block, it just pooped out and wouldnt go back in.... Its possible the material had caught under the bivvy but it didnt feel under much pressure.
I Rang the wonderful parkfield angling and they exchanged it for a new one. I was expecting a repair tbh. Top service.
Only a week later a mate was fishing on an exposed bank in very strong winds. A huge gust hit the back of his XD, he heard a bang but the bivvy stayed up, only on packing up did he find the rear pole had sheared off at the block..
Hopefully isolated incidents as i do really like the bivvy.
In reply to Post #164
Heard of a few block issues same as you said and one owner told me fox are aware and have spares to repair in stock.
Heard of a few block issues same as you said and one owner told me fox are aware and have spares to repair in stock.
My message of my Frontier X that leaked, got lost in the move to the new server. But anyways: I got a new bivvy from Fox. Just hope this is a good one.
Bought the overwrap again (30% discount) and for this time of year 100% recommended, even though there are no windows, that was the reason I returned it last time , spent 2 nights in the rain no complaints at all with the overwrap and extra space for stuff, if i want i can even get put 2 beds in on the sides in my X if i remove the front
Not so sure if I am going to buy the Social cap now because with the overwrap and the front removed from the bivvy it is big enough for me and my son, only for the summer no windows is a no go, maybe I will have windows made in it instead of buying the social cap, at least it will be cheaper than the social cap
Not so sure if I am going to buy the Social cap now because with the overwrap and the front removed from the bivvy it is big enough for me and my son, only for the summer no windows is a no go, maybe I will have windows made in it instead of buying the social cap, at least it will be cheaper than the social cap
Mine is utter rubbish.
Holes in GS after 2 weeks.
Manufacturing defect near door
Tape seals missing
Front panel zips never stay closed
Big gaps betwen zips.
Fox meant to send me a new one, sent wrong one. Replacemnet not in stock, been waiting months.
Holes in GS after 2 weeks.
Manufacturing defect near door
Tape seals missing
Front panel zips never stay closed
Big gaps betwen zips.
Fox meant to send me a new one, sent wrong one. Replacemnet not in stock, been waiting months.
In reply to Post #169
Get your money back.
Get your money back.
In reply to Post #169
Replacement not in stock? The fox rep at parkfield ordered me a new one and it came in a week (. X version)
My groundsheet feels pretty robust.
Replacement not in stock? The fox rep at parkfield ordered me a new one and it came in a week (. X version)
My groundsheet feels pretty robust.
In reply to Post #169
Plenty of stock in Belgium,should get it to you in a week or so.I think someone is fobbing you off
Plenty of stock in Belgium,should get it to you in a week or so.I think someone is fobbing you off
In reply to Post #173
I got my replacement within 2 weeks.
I got my replacement within 2 weeks.
In reply to Post #169
What you fishing over mate? Mine doesn't have any holes at all in the groundsheet and a lot of the swims on my syndicate are gravel, I've had mine since end of April and still like brand new used it a lot aswell so been put through it's paces I go a lot
What you fishing over mate? Mine doesn't have any holes at all in the groundsheet and a lot of the swims on my syndicate are gravel, I've had mine since end of April and still like brand new used it a lot aswell so been put through it's paces I go a lot
In reply to Post #173
Its Belgium im dealimg with
Its Belgium im dealimg with
In reply to Post #176
Very strange,maybe don't want to ship just a bivvy over
Very strange,maybe don't want to ship just a bivvy over
In reply to Post #177
They did they sent a green version by mistake, waiting for a cammo one
They did they sent a green version by mistake, waiting for a cammo one
In reply to Post #178
Most problems you see are with the camo versions must be a serious production fault in that line, luckily I find Fox's Camo ugly.
In reply to Post #180
The pole issues are not just on the camo version,I wouldn't have a Fox shelter given to me after all the issues I had with the supabrollys.The Frontier is a very good design let down by the fact it's Fox
The pole issues are not just on the camo version,I wouldn't have a Fox shelter given to me after all the issues I had with the supabrollys.The Frontier is a very good design let down by the fact it's Fox
In reply to Post #181
Funny thing with the poles that pop out with the 3 that I know (2 from Fb) , it was with all 3 due to incorrect use of the user.
I'm 100% sure it will only pop out if you put pressure on it without clicking the button in first.
Funny thing with the poles that pop out with the 3 that I know (2 from Fb) , it was with all 3 due to incorrect use of the user.
I'm 100% sure it will only pop out if you put pressure on it without clicking the button in first.
In reply to Post #181
What pole issues?
What pole issues?
In reply to Post #181
What pole issues?
What pole issues?
In reply to Post #183
The ones popping out the blocks and not liking heavy winds
The ones popping out the blocks and not liking heavy winds
In reply to Post #185
Not heard about any of that? My X was out in them big winds last year and it didn't budge. The only issues I've seen are when people haven't checked to see if they are twisted which tightens the fabric too much and then they try to force it.
Not heard about any of that? My X was out in them big winds last year and it didn't budge. The only issues I've seen are when people haven't checked to see if they are twisted which tightens the fabric too much and then they try to force it.
In reply to Post #186
There is mention of it in this thread
There is mention of it in this thread
In reply to Post #187
Question is how is it being able to happen due to a construction fault or or due to the wrong action of the user,
probably the second
Question is how is it being able to happen due to a construction fault or or due to the wrong action of the user,
probably the second
In reply to Post #187
I take a lot of what I read with a pinch of salt mate as there are some utter buffoons out there. No doubt there will be some issues as there always are with any product. I was that impressed with my X that I bought the Lite for short trips and better weather😎
I take a lot of what I read with a pinch of salt mate as there are some utter buffoons out there. No doubt there will be some issues as there always are with any product. I was that impressed with my X that I bought the Lite for short trips and better weather😎
In reply to Post #189
You often see over-tension and then the are surprised that something breaks or tears
You often see over-tension and then the are surprised that something breaks or tears
In reply to Post #190
Seen it twice myself, both were on XD's. Luckily they just popped 1 of the plastic grommets on the front of 1 of the tension bars. I actually think this may be a built in safety feature to prevent further damage?
Seen it twice myself, both were on XD's. Luckily they just popped 1 of the plastic grommets on the front of 1 of the tension bars. I actually think this may be a built in safety feature to prevent further damage?
In reply to Post #189
I could never bring myself to buy a Fox shelter again after too many issues with previous shelters from them
I could never bring myself to buy a Fox shelter again after too many issues with previous shelters from them
In reply to Post #192
You talk/complain more about the Frontier than those who own one
You talk/complain more about the Frontier than those who own one
In reply to Post #192
I'm exactly like that with Trakker🤮🤮
I'm exactly like that with Trakker🤮🤮
In reply to Post #193
Your first one was quality wasn't it
Your first one was quality wasn't it
In reply to Post #194
I've had mine since they were first released and it's hands down the best bivvy I have a owned. Absolutely no issues with the whatsoever. Slightly heavier than my tempest but the build and quality is second to none. A big 👍
I've had mine since they were first released and it's hands down the best bivvy I have a owned. Absolutely no issues with the whatsoever. Slightly heavier than my tempest but the build and quality is second to none. A big 👍
In reply to Post #194
I get that as it took me three attempts to get a decent tempest v2 bivvy but my Aqua is spot on first time
I get that as it took me three attempts to get a decent tempest v2 bivvy but my Aqua is spot on first time
In reply to Post #195
And where was that your problem? a production fault can always happen it's solved so get over it
And where was that your problem? a production fault can always happen it's solved so get over it
In reply to Post #198
I dont need get over it and I could not care one bit what shelter you buy but you were the one saying how amazing it was then found faults.Im pretty sure you even came close to not having another frontier because of this,a forum is for discussions and finding out about things like this.The design of the frontier is really good but it's too heavy and I prefer my Aqua ultralite but we are all different
I dont need get over it and I could not care one bit what shelter you buy but you were the one saying how amazing it was then found faults.Im pretty sure you even came close to not having another frontier because of this,a forum is for discussions and finding out about things like this.The design of the frontier is really good but it's too heavy and I prefer my Aqua ultralite but we are all different
In reply to Post #199
You have lots to say about a bivvy you never had...
You have lots to say about a bivvy you never had...
In reply to Post #200
Also the owner of the XD and second year of use this year and it's been brilliant for me. I purchased the wrap for it at the start of this year and I'm really pleased with that. Only drawbacks are as mentioned by a few others, it does weigh a ton with everything in the bag and, after reading the reports, I'm more careful than ever when extending the front poles. Last thing I need is a ball joint popping out.
I wanted to buy the social cap for it but at £500 they can get knotted. I'll just use my T200 if I need a decent sized two man shelter.
Also the owner of the XD and second year of use this year and it's been brilliant for me. I purchased the wrap for it at the start of this year and I'm really pleased with that. Only drawbacks are as mentioned by a few others, it does weigh a ton with everything in the bag and, after reading the reports, I'm more careful than ever when extending the front poles. Last thing I need is a ball joint popping out.
I wanted to buy the social cap for it but at £500 they can get knotted. I'll just use my T200 if I need a decent sized two man shelter.
In reply to Post #200
I have had 7 fox bivvies/brollies,all had to go back due to leaking or manufacturing defects.
I have had 7 fox bivvies/brollies,all had to go back due to leaking or manufacturing defects.
In reply to Post #202
I had a mk 1 supa brolly, got years of good service out of it and still got it, doesnt leak. Bought the camolite SB mk 2 awesome kit, used it for a good few years now faultless.
Still used it on certain waters bit the frontier has relegated it this year. I had that problem with my frontier x but i still love it, the space it gives for the footprint is great.
I had a mk 1 supa brolly, got years of good service out of it and still got it, doesnt leak. Bought the camolite SB mk 2 awesome kit, used it for a good few years now faultless.
Still used it on certain waters bit the frontier has relegated it this year. I had that problem with my frontier x but i still love it, the space it gives for the footprint is great.
In reply to Post #203
My mate and his dad both had the mk1 supabrolly and they were both perfect but I had nothing but issues with the mk1 and mk2.The Frontier has got some really good features and I was very tempted but the weight and previous issues did play a part in me deciding to go for the Aqua ultralite.Im sat in it now for 48hrs and it's perfect for me
My mate and his dad both had the mk1 supabrolly and they were both perfect but I had nothing but issues with the mk1 and mk2.The Frontier has got some really good features and I was very tempted but the weight and previous issues did play a part in me deciding to go for the Aqua ultralite.Im sat in it now for 48hrs and it's perfect for me
Weight difference between the Aqua ultralite and the Frontier x is 1.2kg will be around 500 grams if you leave half of the bivvy pegs at home (frontier has a ridiculous amount of bivvy pegs in the bag) + this weight is also with the extra mesh door/clear window so the weight is about the same between these 2
Transport size Frontier x 147cm vs Aqua ultralite 190cm.
Still Aqua is just very good but the transport length was an no go for me
Transport size Frontier x 147cm vs Aqua ultralite 190cm.
Still Aqua is just very good but the transport length was an no go for me
In reply to Post #202
I've had a couple of EasyDomes, the mk.l and mk.ll and the Jekh shelter that went over a 50inch brolly.
I broke, probably or possibly, heavy handed on an old front pole on the mk.l when it was about 5 years old. Fox replaced it for £15. A quick phone call to the customer service number (I was working at Viscount fishing tackle at the time), it arrived within a week.
Other than that problem of my own making I loved the bivvies.
I must admit that I've seen the latest offerings and I don't think much of them. The rear extension on the next Easydome should have been at the front.
I've had a couple of EasyDomes, the mk.l and mk.ll and the Jekh shelter that went over a 50inch brolly.
I broke, probably or possibly, heavy handed on an old front pole on the mk.l when it was about 5 years old. Fox replaced it for £15. A quick phone call to the customer service number (I was working at Viscount fishing tackle at the time), it arrived within a week.
Other than that problem of my own making I loved the bivvies.
I must admit that I've seen the latest offerings and I don't think much of them. The rear extension on the next Easydome should have been at the front.
Does anyone use the inner dome on their frontiers and would they recommend?
Wondering about the X+. Does anyone know if it's possible to buy the X and inner dome separately? Seems to be possible for the XD, but can't see the X inner dome advertised as a separate item.
Wondering about the X+. Does anyone know if it's possible to buy the X and inner dome separately? Seems to be possible for the XD, but can't see the X inner dome advertised as a separate item.
The inner dome was 100% worth it for me on my Xd
I have the X now without the inner dome (X+ was not in stock then)
Only the XD and X+ (not camo) have an inner dome option.
I have the X now without the inner dome (X+ was not in stock then)
Only the XD and X+ (not camo) have an inner dome option.
Can anyone confirm the weights stated
Frontier 11.75kg
Frontier x. 14.00kg
Not much different in size and with the X having side vents just checking if the weight for the X is correct.
Trying to compare weight to my old Armo mk2 (12.5kg)
Cheers
Frontier 11.75kg
Frontier x. 14.00kg
Not much different in size and with the X having side vents just checking if the weight for the X is correct.
Trying to compare weight to my old Armo mk2 (12.5kg)
Cheers
In reply to Post #209
Those weights seem to be right , this is with a bag with 3x too many bivvy pegs + solid, transparent, camo and mozzy mesh infill door panel, so if you only take what you need you save some extra weight.
I only put my bivvy/ storm poles in the bivvy bag, pegs/groundsheet/vapor peak all goes in another compact bag
Those weights seem to be right , this is with a bag with 3x too many bivvy pegs + solid, transparent, camo and mozzy mesh infill door panel, so if you only take what you need you save some extra weight.
I only put my bivvy/ storm poles in the bivvy bag, pegs/groundsheet/vapor peak all goes in another compact bag
In reply to Post #210
Thank you for reply
Thank you for reply
I kid you not my groundsheet even leaks! If i could post pics i would! Its a joke!
In reply to Post #209
Pretty sure an armo mk2 was only 7.5kilos without any add ons. I used mine this week and its much lighter than my frontier x.
Pretty sure an armo mk2 was only 7.5kilos without any add ons. I used mine this week and its much lighter than my frontier x.
In reply to Post #213
Yeah, 12.5 kilo for the Armo in my case is everything including the pegs for the wrap. Did weigh the bivvy on its own but can't remember weight but didn't seem to bad.
Is the X worth the extra weight ?
Yeah, 12.5 kilo for the Armo in my case is everything including the pegs for the wrap. Did weigh the bivvy on its own but can't remember weight but didn't seem to bad.
Is the X worth the extra weight ?
In reply to Post #214
I think the X is heavier because of the poles. They are a wider diameter and possibly thicker walled. I would imagine that would add some weight including the block.
I think the X is heavier because of the poles. They are a wider diameter and possibly thicker walled. I would imagine that would add some weight including the block.
In reply to Post #215
Frontier X gives more usable space than an armo as you can get your bed right back as its a flat back. There is More headroom too. Its a nicer bivvy to use imo.
But armos are just as quick to put up and take down. By the time youve put the poles together on the frontier fanned it out added storm poles the armo would be as near as dam it up.
If the armos in good nick id stick with it, overwraps add extra room and a handy storage area.
Frontier X gives more usable space than an armo as you can get your bed right back as its a flat back. There is More headroom too. Its a nicer bivvy to use imo.
But armos are just as quick to put up and take down. By the time youve put the poles together on the frontier fanned it out added storm poles the armo would be as near as dam it up.
If the armos in good nick id stick with it, overwraps add extra room and a handy storage area.
In reply to Post #216
Hi
Thanks for the reply
Think am just gonna carry on with my Armo and wrap for winter. Also use my Supa Brolly for summer, which still doesn't leak 😀.
Think I just fancied a change
Hi
Thanks for the reply
Think am just gonna carry on with my Armo and wrap for winter. Also use my Supa Brolly for summer, which still doesn't leak 😀.
Think I just fancied a change
Hello guys,
I have one question which considers all Fox Frontier range. What do you think about the moulded keyed elbow joints on the poles? Is this a good fiture? Any issues? Personally I am a bit of a skeptic to be honest, plastic on pole, will they last or will they brake...
I have one question which considers all Fox Frontier range. What do you think about the moulded keyed elbow joints on the poles? Is this a good fiture? Any issues? Personally I am a bit of a skeptic to be honest, plastic on pole, will they last or will they brake...
The plastic joints are a far better idea than Trakkers tempest.
I have had my one for a year and are perfect.
I have had my one for a year and are perfect.
In reply to Post #218
It"s not plastic...
It"s not plastic...
In reply to Post #220
Seems like plastic, but is there a metal inner within the joint? Got a Frontier X+ recently, only used it once so wouldn't profess to know it in and out yet, but seems pretty perfect (tho is big and bulky to store and transport).
Seems like plastic, but is there a metal inner within the joint? Got a Frontier X+ recently, only used it once so wouldn't profess to know it in and out yet, but seems pretty perfect (tho is big and bulky to store and transport).
In reply to Post #218
Quite frequently, on many makes, the poles are fibreglass with a plastic sheathing.
Quite frequently, on many makes, the poles are fibreglass with a plastic sheathing.
Well I finally caved in and ordered the Frontier X today
I noticed this discription on Fox website
(Frame can be splayed to reduce height)
Has anyone actually tried it 🤔, sometimes do it with my Supabrolly but thought the frame on the Frontier would be solid with not much give in them
I noticed this discription on Fox website
(Frame can be splayed to reduce height)
Has anyone actually tried it 🤔, sometimes do it with my Supabrolly but thought the frame on the Frontier would be solid with not much give in them
Does anyone know if it is worth the upgrade from the original nash hide for the standard frontier ?
The footprint of the hide is ok its just the getting in and out thats getting annoying.
Thanks
The footprint of the hide is ok its just the getting in and out thats getting annoying.
Thanks
In reply to Post #223
Yeh. I do it to my pioneer and my tempest.
It can sit higher of lower by pulling the poles at the tension strap area
In our out and pegging them.
Yeh. I do it to my pioneer and my tempest.
It can sit higher of lower by pulling the poles at the tension strap area
In our out and pegging them.
Put the new bivvy up in garden and really impressed with it.
Quite heavy but it is what it is
One thing though,
Has anyone got any tips on best way to separate the poles (keep relocating) and fold it back up
Cheers
Quite heavy but it is what it is
One thing though,
Has anyone got any tips on best way to separate the poles (keep relocating) and fold it back up
Cheers
Has anyone used a frontier in really hot weather?
Does the fact that the material blocks out the sun keep things cooler inside, or is it just like a dark oven?
Does the fact that the material blocks out the sun keep things cooler inside, or is it just like a dark oven?
In reply to Post #227
It doesnt make it cooler Jon but does offer decent shade, Only the vents being open offer any real cooling.
It doesnt make it cooler Jon but does offer decent shade, Only the vents being open offer any real cooling.
It will be warm in every bivy when it is in the sun on warm days, but the possibility to open windows on the 4 sides is a blessing on too hot days.
In reply to Post #228
Thanks Wayne & Zinno
Thanks Wayne & Zinno
In reply to Post #227
Used it in 37° heat in France last year - it gave welcome shade and felt slightly cooler out of direct sunlight, but air temperature felt the same inside the bivvy as it was outside.
Used it in 37° heat in France last year - it gave welcome shade and felt slightly cooler out of direct sunlight, but air temperature felt the same inside the bivvy as it was outside.
In reply to Post #227
Having the vents that are facing away from the sun is also a massive help, especially if there is a breeze.
Having the vents that are facing away from the sun is also a massive help, especially if there is a breeze.
In reply to Post #226
Done plenty of bank time now in my Frontier X+ and while it's a bit of a lump to store and transport, once up it's great. I love the blackout material, provides proper shade (hate that feeling of being in a bivvie/tent and still feeling the heat of the sun on you) and allows you to sleep late if you've (hopefully) been kept up through the night.
I'm a big fan also of the inner dome that comes with the X+. It does wonders at keeping all the biting bugs at bay. The only mild downside is the side/rear mesh is very fine so does restrict airflow if sealed even if the outer vents are open (but it has the same set of side and rear zip openings as the bivvie). If anyone is considering getting an X then I'd definitely suggest they pay the extra to get the X+ (particularly as it doesn't seem you can buy the X inner dome separately). Also means you don't really need a vapour peak, and the X+ costs the same as the X and a vapour peak.
Definitely glad I didn't get the XD, I'm 5'10 and the central hub of the X is already at the height limit of what I can comfortably assemble/dissemble.
Haven't found any issue with disassembling the bivvie, and you don't need to remove the inner dome to do so (it comes already attached). Just unplug and twist back each joint and pop it in the bag.
Reckon it's decent value too considering it comes with all the extras: full set of infill options, really high quality storm poles, tonnes of very good pegs, groundsheet, etc.
Done plenty of bank time now in my Frontier X+ and while it's a bit of a lump to store and transport, once up it's great. I love the blackout material, provides proper shade (hate that feeling of being in a bivvie/tent and still feeling the heat of the sun on you) and allows you to sleep late if you've (hopefully) been kept up through the night.
I'm a big fan also of the inner dome that comes with the X+. It does wonders at keeping all the biting bugs at bay. The only mild downside is the side/rear mesh is very fine so does restrict airflow if sealed even if the outer vents are open (but it has the same set of side and rear zip openings as the bivvie). If anyone is considering getting an X then I'd definitely suggest they pay the extra to get the X+ (particularly as it doesn't seem you can buy the X inner dome separately). Also means you don't really need a vapour peak, and the X+ costs the same as the X and a vapour peak.
Definitely glad I didn't get the XD, I'm 5'10 and the central hub of the X is already at the height limit of what I can comfortably assemble/dissemble.
Haven't found any issue with disassembling the bivvie, and you don't need to remove the inner dome to do so (it comes already attached). Just unplug and twist back each joint and pop it in the bag.
Reckon it's decent value too considering it comes with all the extras: full set of infill options, really high quality storm poles, tonnes of very good pegs, groundsheet, etc.
I changed from a Tempest Advanced Brolly EV1.0 (which I've kept) to a standard Frontier a couple of months back purely because even at 5'10 my head was tight to the roof after switching bed-chairs to a Solar SP C-Tech System (standard) I was originally put off by the apparent heavy weight of the frontiers but on stripping out the pegs from both, the frontier is infact slightly lighter and given its a longer shelter, feels better balanced when lifting into the car or barrow.
Headroom is much improved, a decent bit of spare room, even when sitting on a bedchair buddy. Flat back is great and makes it more compact than the Tempest and more suited for the tight swims I like to fish, given it's reduced depth. Definitely is quicker/easier to set up, pack down and the carryall has sufficient room so it fits in easily, unlike the tempest.
The only downside versus the tempest is stability: it's certainly not as stable, even with the storm poles in. I never bothered with the poles on the tempest but if it's windy you need them on the frontier. The fact it comes with guide ropes suggests stability in high winds maybe a problem....anyone had experience in this? I've used the frontier without storm poles (looks better) but wouldn't in the wind.
Possible improvements? More stability, but that's presumably a downside of the design?
I'd like vents on the side as well as the back as it would help with the ventilation: would also like the vents to fully open like the bigger models. Other than that it's pretty bang on so far and will add the vapour peak shortly
Headroom is much improved, a decent bit of spare room, even when sitting on a bedchair buddy. Flat back is great and makes it more compact than the Tempest and more suited for the tight swims I like to fish, given it's reduced depth. Definitely is quicker/easier to set up, pack down and the carryall has sufficient room so it fits in easily, unlike the tempest.
The only downside versus the tempest is stability: it's certainly not as stable, even with the storm poles in. I never bothered with the poles on the tempest but if it's windy you need them on the frontier. The fact it comes with guide ropes suggests stability in high winds maybe a problem....anyone had experience in this? I've used the frontier without storm poles (looks better) but wouldn't in the wind.
Possible improvements? More stability, but that's presumably a downside of the design?
I'd like vents on the side as well as the back as it would help with the ventilation: would also like the vents to fully open like the bigger models. Other than that it's pretty bang on so far and will add the vapour peak shortly
In reply to Post #234
Been out in fairly blustery conditions in an XD and not had any issues at all.
Been out in fairly blustery conditions in an XD and not had any issues at all.
In reply to Post #234
I live close to the sea, 250 meters from the beach and regularly fish in an open place 5 km from the sea, i do alot nights with very heavy wind and never had a problem with my Frontier X or XD , also never used the guide ropes.
I live close to the sea, 250 meters from the beach and regularly fish in an open place 5 km from the sea, i do alot nights with very heavy wind and never had a problem with my Frontier X or XD , also never used the guide ropes.
In reply to Post #236
I must say I also never used the storm poles and I think it's quite stable too.
I must say I also never used the storm poles and I think it's quite stable too.
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