Hi all ,
Looking for recommendations for a beaked point hook pattern one with an inward eye and another with an outward eye.
Cheers
Looking for recommendations for a beaked point hook pattern one with an inward eye and another with an outward eye.
Cheers
In reply to Post #1
Gardner wide tape talon tips for inturned eye, very good hooks. I don't use any out turned eyes so can't help with those
Gardner wide tape talon tips for inturned eye, very good hooks. I don't use any out turned eyes so can't help with those
In reply to Post #1
Thinking Anglers range will do exactly what you want.
Thinking Anglers range will do exactly what you want.
In reply to Post #3
Both of those suggestions look perfect for what I need. Thank you.
Both of those suggestions look perfect for what I need. Thank you.
Fox and korda do a chod hook which is an out-turned eye and beaked point
King of the pond hooks are brilliant. Used them for a good while now and always well packaged and sharp. I find the gauge very similar to trig hammers. And tend to be one fish hooks but haven't lost a fish yet.
In reply to Post #1
Thinking Anglers are very nice beak points.
The fox stiff rig beaked are ridiculously strong.
I know its the marmite of the hook bait world for some but a size 4 or 6 korda widegape or wide gape x has always been reliable for me. but maybe I was lucky.
If you can find any of the VMC carp hooks I loved them, the Ridgemonkey hooks are these I believe, or extremely close to it, as with carp spirit. I also suspect the nash claw may be as its identical to a VMC pattern
just to say VMC are a french hook making firm who make loads of companies hooks as well as loads of trebles, very well thought of in the us bass fishing circles, where people take things to the silly side of extreme with t shirts matching their boats
Thinking Anglers are very nice beak points.
The fox stiff rig beaked are ridiculously strong.
I know its the marmite of the hook bait world for some but a size 4 or 6 korda widegape or wide gape x has always been reliable for me. but maybe I was lucky.
If you can find any of the VMC carp hooks I loved them, the Ridgemonkey hooks are these I believe, or extremely close to it, as with carp spirit. I also suspect the nash claw may be as its identical to a VMC pattern
just to say VMC are a french hook making firm who make loads of companies hooks as well as loads of trebles, very well thought of in the us bass fishing circles, where people take things to the silly side of extreme with t shirts matching their boats
In reply to Post #3
+1 for the TA range of hooks.
+1 for the TA range of hooks.
In reply to Post #1
Ordered some TA and some of the Gardner talon tips. Will see how these sharpen up. Thanks for the recommendations.
Ordered some TA and some of the Gardner talon tips. Will see how these sharpen up. Thanks for the recommendations.
In reply to Post #7
Something ive noticed with the TA wide gape is that it has a huge shoulder on the beaked point, ive caught fish using them bit i much prefer the korda wide gape.
Something ive noticed with the TA wide gape is that it has a huge shoulder on the beaked point, ive caught fish using them bit i much prefer the korda wide gape.
In reply to Post #10
I originally thought that as well, but it hasn't have a negative impact to be honest, certainly my catch rate stays the same whichever I use, but a size 5 is perfect for me so go with TA
I originally thought that as well, but it hasn't have a negative impact to be honest, certainly my catch rate stays the same whichever I use, but a size 5 is perfect for me so go with TA
Korda wide gape x is the one for me in a size 6, superb hooks.
In reply to Post #12
I love the gardner wide gape talon tips size 4. Sharp, strong and stay sharp.Also gardner bcrs are good chod version
I love the gardner wide gape talon tips size 4. Sharp, strong and stay sharp.Also gardner bcrs are good chod version
In reply to Post #1
I must say out of the packs I ordered I do prefer the ridgemonkey apex beaked points. I like the pattern and the slight in turn of the eye - perfect for wafter rigs I use. They also sharpen up very well.
Il put them into practice and see how I get on. Thanks again for all the sugguestions.
I must say out of the packs I ordered I do prefer the ridgemonkey apex beaked points. I like the pattern and the slight in turn of the eye - perfect for wafter rigs I use. They also sharpen up very well.
Il put them into practice and see how I get on. Thanks again for all the sugguestions.
In reply to Post #1
I find the ESP Cryogen gripper and grip rigger, patterns very good
I find the ESP Cryogen gripper and grip rigger, patterns very good
In reply to Post #15
Second this - haven't used the TA or Gardner patterbs mentioned but have no issues with the Grippers and prefer them to the Widegapes mentioned and Fox widegape patterns.
Second this - haven't used the TA or Gardner patterbs mentioned but have no issues with the Grippers and prefer them to the Widegapes mentioned and Fox widegape patterns.
In reply to Post #15
I think the newest range of esp hooks is quite poor Tbh, I he old range was certainly far far better.
I think the newest range of esp hooks is quite poor Tbh, I he old range was certainly far far better.
In reply to Post #17
What issues have you had with the cryogens out of interest?
What issues have you had with the cryogens out of interest?
In reply to Post #18
I used the trig hammers and kept losing fish on them. Literally every one. as for the rest I just don't like the look of them they just dont seem as strong as the older range they did. Don't get why they ditched the whole range as they were all really good hooks
I used the trig hammers and kept losing fish on them. Literally every one. as for the rest I just don't like the look of them they just dont seem as strong as the older range they did. Don't get why they ditched the whole range as they were all really good hooks
In reply to Post #19
The points on the trighammers are far too fragile,they turn over if they come into contact with any debris.I also don't rate the new ESP cryogen range,Atomic Tackle are very sharp and really strong hooks
The points on the trighammers are far too fragile,they turn over if they come into contact with any debris.I also don't rate the new ESP cryogen range,Atomic Tackle are very sharp and really strong hooks
In reply to Post #19
I really did rate the trighammers but I now am starting to agree with this, I'm finding myself having to sharpen them and re doing the point after every time I cast out, even after not having any fish.
Question for everyone then I really like the pattern of hook on the trighammer so what hook do people recommend instead? I no they will be different but want as close as I can get
I really did rate the trighammers but I now am starting to agree with this, I'm finding myself having to sharpen them and re doing the point after every time I cast out, even after not having any fish.
Question for everyone then I really like the pattern of hook on the trighammer so what hook do people recommend instead? I no they will be different but want as close as I can get
In reply to Post #19
The Cryogen range were touted as being as strong as the previous range but of thinner gauge wire which made them sharper size for size. Maybe it's the thinner gauge wire that's making them turn over so easily.
The Cryogen range were touted as being as strong as the previous range but of thinner gauge wire which made them sharper size for size. Maybe it's the thinner gauge wire that's making them turn over so easily.
In reply to Post #19
I wanted to try the trighammers a while back but I couldn't get past the fact that they look like they will open out so easily.
Whether they do or not I don't know but just stuck with the smaller beaked points and curve patterns I've always used instead.
I wanted to try the trighammers a while back but I couldn't get past the fact that they look like they will open out so easily.
Whether they do or not I don't know but just stuck with the smaller beaked points and curve patterns I've always used instead.
In reply to Post #19
Have no experience with the trighammers - I have been using the cryogen grippers and curves (although predominantly the grippers).
Having tested a few to destruction they were far stronger than the Korda widegapes abd have found they hold their points well.
Have no experience with the trighammers - I have been using the cryogen grippers and curves (although predominantly the grippers).
Having tested a few to destruction they were far stronger than the Korda widegapes abd have found they hold their points well.
In reply to Post #24
I had a 60 and 2x50's on the size 4 trig hammers. Yes the points went over but they kept their shape fine
2 of the fish were double hooked though so i didnt use them again
I had a 60 and 2x50's on the size 4 trig hammers. Yes the points went over but they kept their shape fine
2 of the fish were double hooked though so i didnt use them again
In reply to Post #25
I use the size 4 Trig hammers also, I've had several carp over 50 on them with no problems at all, Even had a 67lb cat which took over an hour to land
The points do go over but in my experience they are very strong hooks
I use the size 4 Trig hammers also, I've had several carp over 50 on them with no problems at all, Even had a 67lb cat which took over an hour to land
The points do go over but in my experience they are very strong hooks
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