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D rig (21 posts / 3,761 views)
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #1 17 Sep 2020 19:54
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ive been trying to tie the D rig using korda iq2 flourocarbon in 20lb and Im finding the knots seem to come undone and get very loose
which flourocarbon do you use for this rig please
Spen89 Spen89
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Post #2 17 Sep 2020 22:19
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In reply to Post #1
What knots? It's just a small whipping knot and a knot less knot, I've tied it with 15lb iq2 and had no issues.
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #3 17 Sep 2020 22:54
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In reply to Post #2
the small whipping knot keeps coming loose
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
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Post #4 17 Sep 2020 23:07
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In reply to Post #3
Amnesia in 25lb is good
Spen89 Spen89
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Post #5 18 Sep 2020 07:07
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In reply to Post #3
Are you sure you're tying it correctly? Don't mean to condescend, I remember I struggled with it when I started tying them.
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
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Post #6 18 Sep 2020 08:29
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https://www.carpology.net/article/rigs/d-rig-in-detail/

Try this version
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #7 18 Sep 2020 09:23
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im following a guide of utube to tie it
the rig is ok when 1st tied the whipping knot seems to unravel i dont think im getting it tight enough
Goose Goose
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Post #8 18 Sep 2020 09:33
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In reply to Post #7
Maybe just add a dab of superglue if tied correctly.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #9 18 Sep 2020 14:43
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In reply to Post #1
If you are doing the 'two fingers in the loop' method as per Terry Hearn that's very tricky unless you practice it a lot, this is much easier LINK
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #10 18 Sep 2020 18:46
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im doing it the same as your link the 2 finger method was over my head lol
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #11 18 Sep 2020 22:44
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did you know there is a Rig section ?
just saying
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #12 19 Sep 2020 10:39
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sorry mr old geezer i realised after i had posted it was in wrong section
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #13 19 Sep 2020 12:41
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lol dont matter
just you may not have known thats all .and the mods when on their A game move it anyways so all good
chewbakka chewbakka
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Post #14 19 Sep 2020 15:19
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In reply to Post #7
really cinch up the knots tightly mate, use puller tool or similar that should clear the problem.
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #15 19 Sep 2020 18:45
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In reply to Post #14
ive been using pliers on the tag end still comes undone
do you think my korda iq2 may of aged its prob 3 or 4yrs old
Spen89 Spen89
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Post #16 19 Sep 2020 19:00
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In reply to Post #15
My iq2 is 6-7 years old, I wouldn't worry. I've had plenty of fish on mine just only use it for a couple of rigs.

I'd still think you may be tying it wrong, might want to try the d rig kickers or see if someone can show you the knot in the flesh.
hyperloop hyperloop
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Post #17 20 Sep 2020 09:22
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In reply to Post #15
You could always do away with the knot on the shank and use a piece of silicone in its place... does the same job whilst being a lot easier to tie.
chewbakka chewbakka
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Post #18 20 Sep 2020 20:13
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In reply to Post #15
As others have said mines probably just as old, i dont think its that, If its coming loose perhaps just watch the vid again and it might be really simple that you have brought a tag through the wrong way or something, i also struggle with the 2 finger twisty knot unless i do it a few times then i remember, so i just do it the other way. Some instructional vids can also make things look simple and dont give emphasis on points that are very important, try looking at a few different ones to see if they show you a bit more . Good luck sounds like you are on top of the problem. One thing i found really helped me was sticking the tag end in the eye of the hook until i had finished whipping the tag end round.
fireblade918 fireblade918
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Post #19 20 Sep 2020 20:18
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In reply to Post #18
can i ask what breaking strain the korda iq your using is please
Ive got to say this is brill its what the forum should be about people helping and sharing experiences with each other thankyou
chewbakka chewbakka
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Post #20 21 Sep 2020 09:31
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In reply to Post #19
Hi i checked last night, im using 20lb and 25 lb. i tied one in each last night as per the vid linked earlier and i had no problems , Its important to make the wraps around as close to each other as possible and as tight as possible obviously youve done this but maybe just practise it a bit and look at your results. My knot was sound and tight but i could still move it along the shank with my thumb nails and it didnt suffer from it. thats pretty much how i like mine to be, although with the twisty whipping knot i think the flourocarbon comes out of the knot better personally , parrellel to the shank , with the simpler knot it tends to come of alongside the shank or a tiny bit ofset.
Belch Belch
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Post #21 1 Oct 2020 20:30
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I use 15lb or 20lb Rigmarole camH20 for this rig and find the ability to pull down on the knot with a bit of memory helps . . also good for pulling the whole rig taught when its finished . . .camh20 is really easy to work with IMHO compared to other fluro hooklink materials . . .had some IQ and found it brittle in comparison.

When you've sussed the whipping knot end ensure the tag exits on the inside of the shank and blob it with a lighter - this stops it moving and also keeps the loop / rig ring swivel clear from obstruction on the D side.

Great rig when used with a wafter and on relatively clean bottoms / snag free swims . . .recently had my UK PB on this rig with a size 4 mugga and no swivel / movement at the lead clip end . . .once you've tied a few they are easy, simple and have minimal 'components' so you can tie them quick . . .
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